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LeineLodge 04-20-2013 11:19 AM

I LOVE when guys WS when there are no reserves available. Brilliant...

That is all :mad:

Retire4X 04-20-2013 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1394901)
If anyone interested, here is a good recap of the actual negotiations and how they failed. There was a deal, Obama reneged; that marginalized the moderates who had managed to split the gap.

... and mind you, Frontline is PBS ... even an honest liberal will call this ....

Cliffhanger | FRONTLINE | PBS

Again Mods, my apologies. This is a political issue which effects the health of our employment. Either side could move, but when you marginalize the moderates things get worse.

Good program Bar. Thanks for posting. Pretty much sums it up. A lot of "my way or the highway", country and economy be damned. It makes me fear that our airline industry issues are even more insignificant to them. When I get back to the line, in the next month or so, I will definitely be checking-off on the ALPA PAC contribution.


Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1394921)
Good post Bar. How can are government function if its leaders can't trust each other to live up to the deals they've negotiated? Then there's no reason to negotiate in the future.

Simpson-Bowles offered a new compromise plan yesterday. Wonder if anyone will try to run with it.

Simpson and Bowles offer modified budget plan | Fox News

Interesting, thanks for posting Elvis. Trust between the players is definitely lacking, but I think the interim agreements are only chess moves designed to back the other side into a corner - then "uh no, we've changed our minds. That's no longer on the table..."

When we think we have thwarted something like the Adu Dhabi pre-clearance facility; the administration merely states "We already have budgetary authority for that:, i.e. "We are going to do it anyway".

Retire4X 04-20-2013 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1395094)
I LOVE when guys WS when there are no reserves available. Brilliant...

That is all :mad:

I am just learning, so forgive the question if it's a stupid one... Is it possible it was a standing WS? Otherwise, your consternation is spot on.:eek:

flyallnite 04-20-2013 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by Avgwhitemale (Post 1394929)
If SD said it then it must be true.:rolleyes:

Well, ok. There was that. But frankly SD is probably the most forthright and talented flt ops leader we've had since Pre Ball. Could do a lot worse is all I'm sayin.

flyallnite 04-20-2013 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by Avgwhitemale (Post 1394995)
I am serious as a heart attack. Kids don't sit Indian style anymore. Now they sit "criss cross apple sauce":rolleyes: My kids sit indian style and I make them play on the highway. The other day I took my six year old to the store without her booster seat. :p I have no idea how we survived the two mile trip.

I fully approve. Parents today are beyond histrionic. Time to get real. Ever see The Royal Tennenbaums? Gene Hackman was classic as the Granddad showing his grand kids how to dart into traffic, have BB gun wars etc...

sailingfun 04-20-2013 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1395094)
I LOVE when guys WS when there are no reserves available. Brilliant...

That is all :mad:

Its each pilots contractual right to WS. It may be that even though they are out of reserves there is no chance a GS will get down to him. If he is number 1 in the category it might be dumb but there are many reasons to WS even when they are low on reserves.

LeineLodge 04-20-2013 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1395142)
Its each pilots contractual right to WS. It may be that even though they are out of reserves there is no chance a GS will get down to him. If he is number 1 in the category it might be dumb but there are many reasons to WS even when they are low on reserves.

Nevermind....

NERD 04-20-2013 02:58 PM

More importantly should we always be able to go alv+15? With alvs in the low 70s it was one thing, with the high ALVs of our current pwa the *****s( while within their contractual rights) are assisting the company in putting off hiring and advancement. Next contract maybe we should tie the max pick up to the alv. The higher the alv the lower the pickup(ie 72 alv max pu 15, with decreasing pickup as the alv rises)

Wasatch Phantom 04-20-2013 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1395130)
Well, ok. There was that. But frankly SD is probably the most forthright and talented flt ops leader we've had since Pre Ball. Could do a lot worse is all I'm sayin.

Certainly better than Harry Alger, Dave Greenberg, Gary ???? and Joe Kolshak. But I though Dave Bushy was pretty darn good. My impression is Bushy did a better job representing pilot interests to senior management than SD does. SD is certainly no slouch, but "plays better with senior management".

Doug Masters 04-20-2013 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1395194)
More importantly should we always be able to go alv+15? With alvs in the low 70s it was one thing, with the high ALVs of our current pwa the *****s( while within their contractual rights) are assisting the company in putting off hiring and advancement. Next contract maybe we should tie the max pick up to the alv. The higher the alv the lower the pickup(ie 72 alv max pu 15, with decreasing pickup as the alv rises)


Good idea. I'm amazed at the number of pilots we have here who apparently don't like being at home. :rolleyes:


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