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tsquare 05-09-2013 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by firstmob (Post 1406234)
They have 8 stored. This possibity puts another nail in the coffin of the A321 rumor.

How do ya figure?

tsquare 05-09-2013 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by finis72 (Post 1406278)
Buy you a steak dinner if DL ever buys another 747-400. The only way would be if somebody pays us to take them, kind of like the SW 717 deal.

I'll buy him a second one....

Albief15 05-09-2013 12:10 PM

http://slacktory.com/wp-content/uplo...not-bang-5.jpg

You guys need to give that gal the treatment. Don't you realize how many freckles and moles she has? And it doesn't look like she's brushed her hair lately either...

80ktsClamp 05-09-2013 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by firstmob (Post 1406234)
They have 8 stored. This possibity puts another nail in the coffin of the A321 rumor.

No 321? I'm never gonna give them up!

Flamer 05-09-2013 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1406226)
+1

MEC Alert 13-05 was stunning in tone. After I read the first few sentences I had to look back at the header to make sure it was really from our MEC and not Flight Ops management. It was a tour de force apology for management and a blatant attempt to preempt any criticism from pilots of this decision to buy back shares, pay dividends, forward fund all the remaining DB pensions and otherwise give buckets of money to just about everyone except pilots.

The whole "constructive engagement" and "cooperation not confrontation" style of labor relations that Lee Moak brought to DALPA and now all of ALPA has tilted way too far in the direction of just doing management's bidding.
We keep giving and giving and get nothing in return but COLA raises and the opportunity to further boost our pay by working longer hours and other forms of "enhanced productivity". Gee thanks.
The result of all this is the Delta seniority list continues to shrink while the ALPA endorsed codeshares and JVs and alliances and the number of large RJs continue to multiply. And the Virgin Atlantic thing hasn't even started yet.

Cooperation to achieve common goals is starting to look more like collaboration to control pilot costs. ALPA may have achieved labor peace with management but they better be careful. If they tilt any further they are in danger of losing labor peace with their own membership.

I actually hope you are right......if we had a little bit less labor peace we wouldn't be continually getting screwed.

iceman49 05-09-2013 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by firstmob (Post 1406234)
They have 8 stored. This possibity puts another nail in the coffin of the A321 rumor.

Exactly how does this put the nail in the coffin of the 321 rumor?

Free Bird 05-09-2013 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1406226)
+1

MEC Alert 13-05 was stunning in tone. After I read the first few sentences I had to look back at the header to make sure it was really from our MEC and not Flight Ops management.

The whole "constructive engagement" and "cooperation not confrontation" style of labor relations that Lee Moak brought to DALPA and now all of ALPA has tilted way too far in the direction of just doing management's bidding.
We keep giving and giving and get nothing in return but COLA raises and the opportunity to further boost our pay by working longer hours and other forms of "enhanced productivity". Gee thanks.
The result of all this is the Delta seniority list continues to shrink while the ALPA endorsed codeshares and JVs and alliances and the number of large RJs continue to multiply. And the Virgin Atlantic thing hasn't even started yet.


Great post!

firstmob 05-09-2013 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 1406321)
Exactly how does this put the nail in the coffin of the 321 rumor?

I believe the A321 purchase was tied to a
A330 purchase.

80ktsClamp 05-09-2013 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by firstmob (Post 1406332)
I believe the A321 purchase was tied to a
A330 purchase.

There wasnever any mention of that.. only tying purchases to further returns of CRJ200s.

marcal 05-09-2013 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1406287)
I'll buy him a second one....


Originally Posted by finis72 (Post 1406278)
Buy you a steak dinner if DL ever buys another 747-400. The only way would be if somebody pays us to take them, kind of like the SW 717 deal.

I'm keeping tabs just in case!


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