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Vikz09 06-13-2013 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1428004)
Vikz09,

Don't know the answer to your question but just wanted to point out that the 20% only applies to the amount of profit over $2.5 billion. The 10% still applies up to $2.5 billion.

Denny

I understand the 10% upto 2.5 billion. I guess my general understanding was if we made above 2.5 billion that would trigger the 20% profit sharing on the whole thing. Your probably right! If I understand you correctly, your saying that if we make 2.7 billion we still only receive 10% up to 2.5 billion... Then the balance of 200 million would be paid at 20%?

Either way, I believe we could hit that figure this year when the dust settles.

Thanks Denny!

Denny Crane 06-13-2013 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Vikz09 (Post 1428021)
I understand the 10% upto 2.5 billion. I guess my general understanding was if we made above 2.5 billion that would trigger the 20% profit sharing on the whole thing. Your probably right! If I understand you correctly, your saying that if we make 2.7 billion we still only receive 10% up to 2.5 billion... Then the balance of 200 million would be paid at 20%?

Either way, I believe we could hit that figure this year when the dust settles.

Thanks Denny!

Yes, that is exactly how I think profit sharing on 2.7 billion would be paid.

I'm not an accountant but, in the contract, there are specific guidelines on what the company cannot "write off" so to speak. Profit sharing is based on PTIX. The definition of PTIX from the contract:

“Pre-tax income” (PTIX) means, for any calendar year, the Company’s consolidated pre-tax income calculated in accordance with Generally Accepted Accounting Principles in the United States and as reported in the Company’s public securities filings but excluding: a) all asset write downs related to long term assets, b) gains or losses with respect to employee equity securities, c) gains or losses with respect to extraordinary, one-time or non-recurring events (including without limitation one-time transition or integration costs incurred in connection with the merger of the Company and Northwest Airlines Corporation during the two year period following the merger), and d) expense accrued with respect to the profit sharing plan.

Denny

RockyBoy 06-13-2013 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1428004)
Vikz09,

Don't know the answer to your question but just wanted to point out that the 20% only applies to the amount of profit over $2.5 billion. The 10% still applies up to $2.5 billion.

Denny

I'm not sure that is right Denny. I beleive once we hit 2.5 billion then they pay 20% of PTIX into the profit sharing plan. If we are under that, then they pay 10% of the PTIX into the plan. I remember someone saying that the profit sharing cost would double if we went over 2.5 billion.

It's also very hard for them to manipulate the numbers to lower the PTIX numbers. I'm not an accounting expert, but paying down debt or buying more assets goes into the equation after the PTIX calculation.

Vikz09 06-13-2013 11:03 PM

For those that commute between SFO - LAX you have a few more flights. Unfortunately, they are all on Compass. Good luck, got scope?

DELTA Expands Los Angeles ? San Francisco Bay Area Operation from Sep 2013 | Airline Route ? Worldwide Airline Route Updates

Just so people in Oakland don't feel left out you also get a increase in flights. However, as the red headed step-child your flights will be on CR7 and CR9's

nwaf16dude 06-14-2013 03:05 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1428003)
320? Make sure you show them the bid pack.

5 leg days? Going months without crossing the Mississippi to the west? Every trip going to MDW and EWR? 32 hours in fine locales such as FNT, BMI, and CRW? Then the ATL 320 is for you!

I was pleasantly surprised to see you airbus guys in CAE this month. More jumpseats!

johnso29 06-14-2013 04:17 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1427776)
Look, I was just pointing out that all of johnso's posts lately have had that overtone and it's frustrating seeing a user I respect so much go down that path.

If he's going to do that, at least post some boobs or cats to make it funny.


What can I say. I've been somewhat jaded to this board lately. Maybe I'll mellow out. Or maybe I'll start yelling for some of you youngsters to get off my forum. :D ;)

TOGA LK 06-14-2013 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by Vikz09 (Post 1428065)
For those that commute between SFO - LAX you have a few more flights. Unfortunately, they are all on Compass. Good luck, got scope?

DELTA Expands Los Angeles ? San Francisco Bay Area Operation from Sep 2013 | Airline Route ? Worldwide Airline Route Updates

Just so people in Oakland don't feel left out you also get a increase in flights. However, as the red headed step-child your flights will be on CR7 and CR9's

This is great news!! Thank you my LEC reps!!

Imapilot2 06-14-2013 05:55 AM

One nice thing I didn't quite understand we got in the last contract is nice. So now if you get a green slip, one leg out and dh the next day back, instead of 7:15(14:30) you get 9(18).....sweet!

sinca3 06-14-2013 06:06 AM

July schedules are available for viewing for everyone BUT M88B ATL!!

Columbia 06-14-2013 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1427993)
DAL PWA Jan 1, 2015:
12 yr. . . CA . . . . FO
777 . $270.25 . $184.59
787 . $258.90 . $176.83
330 . $255.28 . $174.35
7ER . $226.21 . $154.50

Looks like the Delta Pilots were successful in negotiating a 14.5% higher payrate ($20-$50/hr more) for the future "767 sized" aircraft.

Sorry T, I used to be a proponent of LBP but I like the option of more money OR more QOL that the current system provides. LBP would take "more money" off the table and make more QOL the only factor. The current system allows for more choice.

But shouldn't seniority have both QOL and pay? I'm sure more than a few senior bubbas whose health isn't helped by transiting multiple time zones a few times a month would love to be "able" to fly the 717 and do more regional domestic sort of flying without having to give up massive amounts of $$$$$. This in turn would allow more junior folks (read: less than 14 years seniority) to be able to hold international lines which are decent.
Besides, if the current system allows for more "choice" as you put it, then why are 99% of the top 600 or so flying internationally? I would bet if lgbp were the rule, 30-50% of them would be on domestic narrow bodies. The truth is, they don't have a choice.


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