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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1351550)
I'm not following. Coffee hasn't kicked in yet. What fleet is overstaffed at 7 crews per plane?
The 737 is referenced as being built up for coming deliveries, meaning more pilots than currently needed. They're over 7 crews too. They specifically mentioned the 717 needs 7 crews, but that's for the build up of training as they're limited there too for how many crews they can train in a month. If 5 crews is overstaffed on the proverbial backbone of the fleet, I seriously doubt 7 crews will last on the 717 either. ----- Now let me make something clear, I'm not saying any of the staffing levels are nefarious. They're what we allow. I just think the notion that we're paid less in W2s than SWA pilots because they have this uber-high utilization may not be the case at all when you look at similar domestic only aircraft. You read that welcome packet and you see how their credit pay builds up fast. Every SWA pilot I talk to seems to be in the mid 70s to low 80s in flight hours per month but not in pay. But people can call me disingenuous but I'm just trying to figure out the truth via an excel spreadsheet and posted data. |
I don't have my contract with me. Does anyone know what the minimum rest period they have to give you after you finish a short call period? If SC period ends at 11PM tonight what is the earliest they can call me tomorrow morning? Thanks
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1351559)
They mention the 9 is overstaffed at slightly more than 7 crews and the 88/90 is overstaffed at slightly less than 5 crews in the March newsletter.
The 737 is referenced as being built up for coming deliveries, meaning more pilots than currently needed. They're over 7 crews too. They specifically mentioned the 717 needs 7 crews, but that's for the build up of training as they're limited there too for how many crews they can train in a month. If 5 crews is overstaffed on the proverbial backbone of the fleet, I seriously doubt 7 crews will last on the 717 either. ----- Now let me make something clear, I'm not saying any of the staffing levels are nefarious. They're what we allow. I just think the notion that we're paid less in W2s than SWA pilots because they have this uber-high utilization may not be the case at all when you look at similar domestic only aircraft. You read that welcome packet and you see how their credit pay builds up fast. Every SWA pilot I talk to seems to be in the mid 70s to low 80s in flight hours per month but not in pay. But people can call me disingenuous but I'm just trying to figure out the truth via an excel spreadsheet and posted data. I think it comes down to aircraft utilization. Yes, the DC9 was intentionally overstaffed. But the 737 was not. The 320 has FOs being displaced due to lower utilization. The 717 will be used more then the DC9. The M88 utilization will increase in the summer. I doubt they'll be many displacements off the M88. |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1351548)
Or cover training as new jets come in.
Speaking of that, we were promised 7 crews per 717, yet, 7 crews per crew planning is overstaffed? I like the way you think man. |
36.8% in taxes taken from my profit sharing........Holy Cow! Is that mandated by the government?
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
(Post 1351578)
36.8% in taxes taken from my profit sharing........Holy Cow! Is that mandated by the government?
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changed my mind......
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1351513)
So using their data from the AirTran welcome packet:
So a little less... unless you take into account they are talking about reducing the staffing. Say, a 3.3% reduction or 57.2 pilots system wide? Then we equal SWA. |
Originally Posted by Delta1067
(Post 1351562)
I don't have my contract with me. Does anyone know what the minimum rest period they have to give you after you finish a short call period? If SC period ends at 11PM tonight what is the earliest they can call me tomorrow morning? Thanks
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
(Post 1351578)
36.8% in taxes taken from my profit sharing........Holy Cow! Is that mandated by the government?
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