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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
(Post 1351603)
This is based on the current "over staffing" due to nonstop capacity reductions the past few years, but you already knew that. The situation will dramatically change as management continues to not replace retiring pilots "right sizing" staffing while continuing to outsource. Give it 24 months. Instead of guys reporting lots of time off on reserve, every reserve Jr and Sr, will be flying up to contract limits that were just increased (including more SC periods) in C2012:(
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Originally Posted by Scoop
(Post 1351609)
Timbo,
We are pretty inefficient in this regard but as you point out that is due to the complexity of our system. This is countered however, by our system wide revenue premium. The thing that is being left out of this discussion is revenue per pilot. Although SWA Pilots and DAL pilots are pretty close the last time I checked it DAL pilots actually produce more revenue per pilot despite these inefficiencies. Scoop You won't have the current anomaly of guys in some categories sitting at home for a month skewing the ratios. That said, it was a huge mistake moving the needle toward more productivity in c2012. It should be more pay (nobody hardly ever uses the word restoration anymore), less hours, scope that puts a stop to outsourcing including making RJ's viable for the rest of our careers which is precisely what just happened. In most cases ALPA has taken us in the opposite (read wrong) direction. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1351598)
Called tech ops. He believes the average usage on the MD88/90 fleet is right at 8 hours a day. He is going to try and get the exact numbers and get back to me however he said its the lowest fleet. That compares to 10.8 I think you posted for 2012 and the 10.5 number I posted for SW in 2011. Highest utilization rates are the international aircraft which exceed 16 hours a day in many cases and bring our overall fleet average way up.
On the comment about NRT I was not referring to aircraft utilization but rather pilot block hours. The operation is very inefficient on a block hour basis with tons of credit. The same applies to our limited inter Africa flying. That also has to be considered when looking at numbers but aids your side of the discussion not mine. |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1351620)
Sorry Jack. You're wrong again. What you suggest will happen is not contractually allowed.
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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
(Post 1351633)
Further, wouldn't it be fair to say anything currently based upon average per pilot (block hours or any other metric) will continue to move the other way as management "right sizes" staffing, bleeding off what they would call bloat by not replacing retiring pilots? You won't have the current anomaly of guys in some categories sitting at home for a month skewing the ratios. That said, it was a huge mistake moving the needle toward more productivity in c2012. It should be more pay (nobody hardly ever uses the word restoration anymore), less hours, scope that puts a stop to outsourcing including making RJ's viable for the rest of our careers which is precisely what just happened. In most cases ALPA has taken us in the opposite (read wrong) direction. I wouldn't discount crew resources fiscal prowess as a DALPA conspiracy though. I think they're actually just doing the right thing for the company. Which just may happen to be awful for you, but given my free money coming tomorrow, which I'm not technically contractually obligated to receive, I'll take every dime I can get as a result of their expertise. |
Originally Posted by buzzpat
(Post 1351578)
36.8% in taxes taken from my profit sharing........Holy Cow! Is that mandated by the government?
Well, this is nothing but a god danm shakedown and a screwjob, any way you look at it! |
Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
(Post 1351640)
I know what you are getting at. Even with the 60 hour rule reserves will be flown more than they have been. This decreases staffing requirements across the board while decreasing the average reserves QOL. A lose/lose. |
Originally Posted by RockyBoy
(Post 1351595)
Mine was a total of 43% of the check to taxes and ALPA.
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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1351620)
Sorry Jack. You're wrong again. What you suggest will happen is not contractually allowed.
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Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 1351654)
Until it happens. Food for thought. |
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