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Carl Spackler 02-12-2013 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1351060)
Carl, I am short volatility with SVXY. Got a tight stop in, do you mess with VXX or UVXY?

Good call on your part. I'm long the VIX 14/16 call spread, so barring a big jump up by Friday it will be a losing trade.

Carl

Timbo 02-12-2013 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1351125)
Hey!

They have to coordinate the office and order office supplies from staples. Not just anyone can do that job.


But at least they're off every weekend and holiday! :rolleyes:

fisherpilot 02-12-2013 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1350541)
Great to have you back Carl. This place was getting lame.


I don't contribute much since I don't have a dog in this fight (hopefully one day:D) but follow it daily. I really like Carl's perspective. Seems like he and I see a lot of things the same way.

Stick around Carl...... A lot of folks like your input here!

Sink r8 02-12-2013 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1351069)
So that's why there are so many three man trips on the ER?

We still have three-man trips?

johnso29 02-12-2013 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1351140)
We still have three-man trips?

I think those are the trips where the fed comes along. Or a LCA????

forgot to bid 02-12-2013 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom (Post 1350994)
While I agree with most organizations "it would be cheaper to hire real professionals" ALPA pays their employees very, very well.

Take a look (CAUTION: IT MAY MAKE YOUR BLOOD BOIL!)
Union Facts: Air Line Pilots Leaders, Employees, and Salaries

So is the oil painter not on staff?

:D

forgot to bid 02-12-2013 02:19 PM

Fedelta, watch this


Flamer 02-12-2013 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1350917)
The point isn't lost on anyone. DALPA will tell you that by the end of the contract you make the same as them though.

Of course you won't have their w-2...

The point was lost on over 60% of the pilot group. Not everyone has SWA buds they can rely on for factual information. So, how accurate was the data in the C2012 contract comparison provided by our own union? Intentionally misleading and covering up the truths that I think you are giving too many credit for awareness of.

scambo1 02-12-2013 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 1351181)
The point was lost on over 60% of the pilot group. Not everyone has SWA buds they can rely on for factual information. So, how accurate was the data in the C2012 contract comparison provided by our own union? Intentionally misleading and covering up the truths that I think you are giving too many credit for awareness of.

My issue with what was put out by our union is that; "by the end of the contract you will make what they make," (paraphrased) is (only half) true...So they (the DALPA sales team) stopped right there...They compared hourly rate to hourly rate.

As most here know, at SWA, (established) pay rates are only a part of the story. I am no expert on all the SWA pay rules. (Apparently, from a previous post, I am no expert on DAL pay rules either.:D)

If you compare W-2s, head to head, SWA pilots can make an a$$load more than we can.

I don't personally believe it makes a person an outlier or two standard deviations to the left or right to expect our collective bargaining agent to tell us the whole truth. It is not my desire to find fault, but I find it personally insulting to be lied to.

My own assessment is that the lies (or half truths) flow in order to further an agenda which, to me, seems counter to the true betterment of the DAL pilots. This is, in my viewpoint, true of the (perceived) lack of adherance to the contract surveys, the 717 won't come unless..., SWA pay, statements like "they aren't in our competitive set", statements like "outsourcing is good for DAL pilots", etc.

It seems as if DAL management has plenty of investable capital - or ties to get it. Trainer, VA, 76 seaters, etc. They just don't seem willing to invest it in Delta Air Lines directly unless they get a super duper deal...Okay, I get that.

The next big litmus test will be JV compliance. My prediction is...

GunshipGuy 02-12-2013 03:33 PM

Need to see more of this:

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