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Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 1351406)

But....Dalpa said SWA pay by 2015. Will the work rules then change? If not, then why would they make an apples to oranges comparison, I.e. Pay check does not mean pay rates?

I initially said the SWA contract, not pay.

Maybe the reason (per the SWA welcome packet) SWA runs a 5.3 crew per jet and we run 4.8 per jet is... they have to give their guys more days off then we get? :D

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1351530)

Maybe the reason (per the SWA welcome packet) SWA runs a 5.3 crew per jet and we run 4.8 per jet is... they have to give their guys more days off then we get?

Then why would we run more crews on our 737s? :p We have yet to staff our upcoming 737 deliveries.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1351526)

You are lumping our domestic 757/767 fleet into your numbers and applying it to the Md88. Our Md88 utilization rate is very low at the moment. That's not valid. The average daily numbers comparing like sized small narrow bodies I posted.
In the end however the only valid way to compare pilot productivity is block hours per pilot. SW enjoys a huge advantage in that department.

Couple of things, it's hard to do a comparison of like sized narrow bodies between a fleet that consists mostly of 737-700 sized airplanes paying the same as our 747s and a fleet of MD88s and 90s that are larger who pay less. I agree.

Did you see the numbers I posted? It's based off of the numbers SWA posted.

As to 88 utilization, at the moment (February) or for the year? I remember hearing over 50% of the departures in ATL last summer were to be MD88s. When one of ours breaks in ATL is seems as if it's hard to find another.

We've heard the 757s in Asia are inefficient, but they're lumped into the domestic BH number (the one used for the DCI ratio). Some of the 757s are old too are they not? Are they being used to their max?

And the 753s seem to fly a lot from ATL-MCO, that's not a long flight. Some of those 737s and 757s are running common 88 rotations as well.

So unless you have annual MD88 hours, I'm going to use the average.

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Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1351518)

That was then, this is now, and RA2 doesn't seem to live by that rule, quite the opposite, seems he's never walked away from a yard sale empty handed...

He's like the guy that shows up at your yard sale and offers you a quarter for that old stereo you have marked at $50.

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1351535)

In other words, you're going to continue to make stuff up.

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1351533)

Then why would we run more crews on our 737s? :p

Or cover training as new jets come in.

Speaking of that, we were promised 7 crews per 717, yet, 7 crews per crew planning is overstaffed?

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Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1351544)

In other words, you're going to continue to make stuff up.

No, I don't work for DALPA. :D

I'm just going to use the numbers we have available and do some rather simple math.

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1351548)

Or cover training as new jets come in.

Speaking of that, we were promised 7 crews per 717, yet, 7 crews per crew planning is overstaffed?

I'm not following. Coffee hasn't kicked in yet. What fleet is overstaffed at 7 crews per plane?