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Jack Bauer 06-13-2013 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1427777)
It must be difficult being so pessimistic all the time

Interesting interpretation. I don't agree with you so I'm being a pessimist. For the record, I consider myself an optimist....but also a realist and observer of historical data that influences my opinions in the present and going forward. The end.

Sink r8 06-13-2013 04:11 PM

My apologies to T2: "G&LP" is, in retrospect, not funny. Sort of childish on my part.

80ktsClamp 06-13-2013 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1427896)
My apologies to T2: "G&LP" is, in retrospect, not funny. Sort of childish on my part.

I kept thinking the same thing. :eek:

You see LGBT so much in the news, it's hard not to.

I vote for LBP... the G isn't big in Longevity, let's not start making it big. :)

tsquare 06-13-2013 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1427896)
My apologies to T2: "G&LP" is, in retrospect, not funny. Sort of childish on my part.

Thank you for that. Beer's still on me.

Timbo 06-13-2013 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1427899)
I kept thinking the same thing.

You see LGBT so much in the news, it's hard not to.

I vote for LBP... the G isn't big in Longevity, let's not start making it big. :)

So...now you want Lesbian Based Pay?? :eek:

Fine with me, I've been trapped in a man's body, all my life.

Do I get a raise? :D

And I want a system wide re-bid, so I can get on what ever is going to SXM these days!

shiznit 06-13-2013 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1427679)
Ever since I found out the 787 is about the size of a 767, and will probably pay the same, and the 737 is going to replace the 757, I have thought Longevity Based Pay makes a lot more sense for 90% of us.

What I want to know is, why doesn't the Whale pay a whole lot MORE than the 777? Until we change over to LGBP, that's just wrong. An airplane with about 150 more seats should pay a whole lot more.

Of course, as soon as we change over to that system, the company will order 100 A380's and 747-800s'!

DAL PWA Jan 1, 2015:
12 yr. . . CA . . . . FO
777 . $270.25 . $184.59
787 . $258.90 . $176.83
330 . $255.28 . $174.35
7ER . $226.21 . $154.50

Looks like the Delta Pilots were successful in negotiating a 14.5% higher payrate ($20-$50/hr more) for the future "767 sized" aircraft.

Sorry T, I used to be a proponent of LBP but I like the option of more money OR more QOL that the current system provides. LBP would take "more money" off the table and make more QOL the only factor. The current system allows for more choice.

Roadkill 06-13-2013 07:46 PM

Ok, the AE bid closed almost 12 hours ago now. W T F, wherz it at? When's it gonna be, the next AE? (Friday, Friday...)

I just can't wait to see how many spots I moved backwards. I'm actually not kidding, I just hope it's 1 or 2 only. For the last couple weeks, I've had ER-B guys nosing around the cockpit asking if I could walk them into the jet so they could see how roomy it was, etc. Well, ok, it happened twice. But both of them were senior to me and said they planned on bidding my cat. :( Or doing something to my cat anyways...

Vikz09 06-13-2013 07:57 PM

I have a question for the faithful contract readers. Listening to Ed's guidance today that raises the second quarter outlook. I am wondering if 2.5 billion pre-tax profit is attainable? Obviously, we know that at 2.5 billion it triggers profit sharing increase to 20% up from 10% (contract give away).

I believe earlier this year the company was aiming for a 2 billion profit and we have exceeded expectations on 1st quater and appear to be ready for a record 2nd quater (paying .35 cents less per gallon than last year, Ed's words from today's deutch bank meeting) I seem to remember from years past that flight ops mentioned that each 1 penny increase in fuel adds 40 million to our annual costs.

That been said do you ever see Delta posting a pre-tax profit north of the 2.5 billion number that triggers the 20% for profit sharing? What are some ways they can finagle or massage that number to keep us from doubling up this year year on profit sharing? I assume management wanted that reduction from 15% to 10% knowing that was a huge savings... However left the top rate At 20% because they never intended to allow a 2.5 billion profit. Can they pay cash for these new air craft to chisel the pre-tax. What accounting protections do we have in our language from prohibiting management from getting close to that trigger of 20% and all of the sudden make 200 million disappear with new tugs, trucks or any other capital expenditure.

80ktsClamp 06-13-2013 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by Roadkill (Post 1427995)
Ok, the AE bid closed almost 12 hours ago now. W T F, wherz it at? When's it gonna be, the next AE? (Friday, Friday...)

I just can't wait to see how many spots I moved backwards. I'm actually not kidding, I just hope it's 1 or 2 only. For the last couple weeks, I've had ER-B guys nosing around the cockpit asking if I could walk them into the jet so they could see how roomy it was, etc. Well, ok, it happened twice. But both of them were senior to me and said they planned on bidding my cat. :( Or doing something to my cat anyways...

320? Make sure you show them the bid pack.

5 leg days? Going months without crossing the Mississippi to the west? Every trip going to MDW and EWR? 32 hours in fine locales such as FNT, BMI, and CRW? Then the ATL 320 is for you!

Denny Crane 06-13-2013 08:06 PM

Vikz09,

Don't know the answer to your question but just wanted to point out that the 20% only applies to the amount of profit over $2.5 billion. The 10% still applies up to $2.5 billion.

Denny


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