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Originally Posted by Going2Baja
(Post 1434766)
If this happens we need to see a change in the rates. Time to pay for seats. 320 = 7NG. 321/900 = 757.
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I am 100 percent against longevity base pay. The guys that want this are at the top of the pay scale, but not on the highest paying plane. We should not even have longevity factored into our pay. It ties us to our specific airline thus reducing leverage. A new hire 717 first officer should make the same as a 12 year 717 first officer. They do the exact same job. We are the only industry where you cannot take your skills to another company for the same price. We should be trying to eliminate our entire scale other than the 12 year scale.
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Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1434758)
And just how is that good for us? If the JV is built with less transAtlantic flying on their part PRIOR to the JV language being drawn up, that translates to less flying for us in the event of a AF/KLM-like JV deal. You should be hoping that the DAL/VA deal happens tomorrow, BEFORE their flying gets pulled down. And as to bullet point 4, there is no JV at this time, only a codeshare,unless you are referring to the AF/KLM JV...
If VA doesn't get lumped in with the existing Transatlantic JV, 1.E.8 becomes very interesting. 75% of the flying of Delta's revenue share would flip the balance of flying between DAL and VA in favor of DAL. Measured every Quarter with a 12-month lookback. Which would you rather see? Cheers George P.S. Hauenstein is now on the Virgin BOD. Also the 2nd largest US destination from LHR is not currently in the codeshare list. I would imagine a forthcoming slot will come as part of some near term negotiations with other players... Oh and t, your wish is coming true, Virgin is adding capacity in MCO making it all 744 service... |
VX
Where does VX fit into all this? We pump up the Virgin brand, buy 49% of VA, but where does that lead Virgin America? Just makes no sense for us to build the name of a competing domestic brand.
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
(Post 1434687)
Are you by any chance Lee Moak?
To answer your question, no, I'm not Lee Moak. My ALPA participation is that I read every single thing they email to me. I try to stay informed and vote every time including LEC elections. I've marched every time they've asked for informational picketing. But I freely admit that I've never held any type of ALPA position because I value my free time too much. Perhaps that's why I don't spend every waking moment criticizing those who do volunteer because I've found that most of them have their heart in the right place and do work that I'm not willing to do. I certainly wouldn't condone any corruption or malfeasance on their part, but mostly I find they try their best and I get to vote my choice on the things that matter. While I'm telling you who I'm not, let me also state that I'm not 'THAT PILOT'. You know, he's the guy who when 2 or 3 pilots are talking in the crew room about good places to go on vacation or which hotels have good workout rooms comes walking up and feels the need to tell everyone how bad he's getting screwed by the company and ALPA. 'THAT PILOT' is also the Captain who spends the four day telling his F/O how much the company sucks and ALPA sucks, and the flight attendants suck, and the rampers suck........and he can't figure out why his F/O spends all his time staring out the right side window. 'THAT PILOT' will spend his entire weekend ranting on an anonymous message board about something ALPA has done but won't take a minute to call or email his rep with a reasonable suggestion about how the issue should be handled. ....well congratulations Purple Drank, because you're 'THAT PILOT' |
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1434758)
And just how is that good for us? If the JV is built with less transAtlantic flying on their part PRIOR to the JV language being drawn up, that translates to less flying for us in the event of a AF/KLM-like JV deal. You should be hoping that the DAL/VA deal happens tomorrow, BEFORE their flying gets pulled down. And as to bullet point 4, there is no JV at this time, only a codeshare,unless you are referring to the AF/KLM JV...
I'm personally not sure exactly what to make of the purchase yet, but I do believe it was one of th cheapest options to increase access to LHR and buying slots to increase frequency directly on our metal wasn't/isnt an option. So from that standpoint I can't get to upset about the the purchase and Codeshare agreement, but I am curious to see who will get the increase in flying when the time comes. I think a WB order for us in the near future will help alleviate many people's concern. At the very least will help to quell some of the bickinering in this thread. |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1434663)
And notice that slow and alfa almost completely stopped posting after they lost their positions in DALPA...
Are you saying that they weren't really interested in me? http://www.forkparty.com/wp-content/...kinifinal.jpeg I'm hurt. |
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1434729)
And your problem with that would be what? That there would be more guys making as much or more than you? How arrogant. I could even make the case for a DOH merger because equipment wouldn't make one iota of difference. Or are you afraid that an Alaska pilot would want to commute halfway across the country to take your seat when he could continue to drive to work and make the same money and be home every night? Shiny jet syndrome. You are at the top and anything that threatens the appearance of that scares you to death.
The problem with your argument in a SLI scenario is that we use our seniority for more than just bidding for equipment and seat. Every year we use it to bid vacation. Every 9 months we use it to bid for CQ. Every month we use it to bid for trips, days off, and to have a schedule that is either blockholder or reserve. Finally, for every trip that includes more than one captain or FO, it is used to decide who gets what break, who does the walkaround, and who gets to be the ultimate decision maker. Or, are you saying you wouldn't have a problem with not exercising seniority in these things? If so, can I have your schedule for next month? :D |
Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 1434287)
The ALPA guys have left this board. Interesting how they all left at once. Seems they didn't like that this board was becoming so influential and they are trying to diminish that.
Look at the page view counts. Everyone else is still here.
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1434365)
No, this board has become boring. Sorry, but it has.
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1434373)
Yup. It used to be fun. But many people are turned off by the insults and non stop bickering. A lot of people(besides slow, sailing, alfa, and PG)have stopped posting or left.
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Originally Posted by MD88Driver
(Post 1434739)
Boeing deploys additional 717s to Qantas, Volotea - Yahoo! Finance
SEATTLE, June 25, 2013 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing's (BA) workhorse 717 continues to figure prominently in the success of established and new operators as the manufacturer's leasing unit, Boeing Capital Corp., announced additional deployments of the modern and fuel-efficient twinjets. Australia's largest regional airline, QantasLink, will receive an additional five leased 717s to add to its existing fleet of 13 of the twinjets that operate across Australia. Those deliveries will begin in late 2013 after the aircraft are refitted with upgraded interiors to include a full business class experience and new in-flight entertainment systems. The Qantas Group has operated the 717s since 2002. QantasLink Executive Manager John Gissing said the refurbished aircraft will improve its customer offering and increase the overall level of customer comfort and satisfaction. "The new 717s, with the reconfigured cabin including business class and in-flight entertainment, are perfectly suited to our Sydney-Canberra, Brisbane-Canberra and Melbourne-Canberra routes," said Gissing. "We're delighted that we can offer this premium product to our customers and we're looking forward to introducing them into the market later this year." In Europe, startup carrier, Volotea, will increase its 717 fleet in 2013 to a total 15 as it continues to develop its business model of offering point-to-point service to passengers between medium and small-sized European cities. Volotea began operation in spring 2012 with a network built around the 717 that is supported by a comprehensive Boeing solution for operations and training. Volotea recently surpassed the million passenger mark enabled by its operation from 52 European airports, currently serving 97 city pairs. "The Boeing 717 is an important element to Volotea strategy," said Carlos Munoz, Volotea's founder and CEO. "In terms of size, it is the right aircraft for the medium- and small-sized cities we serve; operationally, it offers top reliability for our frequent, quick turnaround operations. Most importantly, our customers have grown to value the levels of comfort the 717 provides." According to Boeing Capital's managing director for asset management, Thomas Hansen, 2013 will be a landmark year for the 717, the single-largest model holding in its fleet. "Our deployments scheduled for this year will result in all of our 717s doing what they do best, and that is helping customers to make money thanks to the airplane's great operating reliability and their 'big-airplane' style passenger experience," said Hansen. Hansen added that 2013 will also mark the beginning of a major redeployment of its 717 currently operated by the former AirTran Airways, now part of Southwest Airlines, to Delta Airlines under a sub-lease agreement announced in 2012. There are more than 150 Boeing 717s in service today since the first airplane was delivered in 1999. The twinjet's technology and fleet performance have earned it the distinction of being the world's best jetliner serving the 100-passenger airline market. but does this mean there are no more 717s within reach? From the little bit ive been reading there are no more stored 717s. Or wait maybe they were talking about a Hawiian merger? |
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