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Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 1435124)
The Max gross T/O wt. of the 777-200LR is about 768,000, I'm not sure what the 747-400's is. I'm guessing it's more than that. Carl?
Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 1435124)
but bankruptcy threw that out the window years ago, which is why a 747 now pays the same as the 777.
It was the beginning of our pay banding system here at DAL which seems to be increasing in use. Carl |
Originally Posted by finis72
(Post 1435137)
It pays the same because we brought the NW 747 up to the DL 777 rates
Carl |
Originally Posted by georgetg
(Post 1434950)
know your contract...1.E.8 was added last summer.
(And for the record, I was unimpressed we only managed to secure 75% of the flying of Delta's revenue share.) Unless we negotiate something else, PWA 1.E.8 stipulates we fly 75% of the flying of Delta's revenue share. With Delta owning 49% of VA that means nearly half the VA revenue stream at VA goes to Delta. Put another way, in the VA DAL JV, Delta gets 75% of the total revenue stream...and per PWA 1.E.8 we get 75% of the flying of Delta's revenue share or roughly 56.3% of the flying. In PWA 1.8.E it also spells out that share is measured quarterly with a 12 month lookback. That's our opening position. Hat tip to the negotiators who put that in the contract. Hopefully we can realize that part of our contract language. The value of VA is in the LHR slots. If Hauenstein rationalizes the VA network and shrinks the VA operation, do you really think the slots will just go unused, or is it possible Delta takes advantage of the slots to add much needed connectivity to the SkyTeam network where it currently doesn't exist? Virgin not joining the Transatlantic JV is a very good thing for us. That's my point. Now stop being so darn negative t! :D Cheers George |
Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 1435174)
In chess, as opposed to checkers, we are 49% of the way to owning VA's LHR slots. (an item I hope is not lost on our negotiating committee / MEC.)
Because "that's what the survey said Delta pilots want." |
The projected category list is out for the June AE....
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Originally Posted by finis72
(Post 1435137)
It pays the same because we brought the NW 747 up to the DL 777 rates
...while those 747 guys keep their pensions (frozen--but at least they exist). Finis, I'm glad you're able to cash in on another 5 years of 777A pay. I am. But don't come here and tell us we should be happy with the stagnation on the bottom third of the list while you've got yours. How many times have you said something like, "things are about to get better" or "we'll get them next time." You don't even need "things to get better" or a "next time." Face it: you're an automatic "yes" voter on any contract, as long as your hourly rate doesn't go down. Scope? You don't care. JV abuse? Meh. You're on your 777 either way. And your attitude shows it. Your exhortations that junior guys should play ball, suck it up, and trust "our" "union" are misguided at best and arrogantly disconnected at worse. Please stop. |
When is the next BOD meeting?
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
(Post 1435268)
brought "up?"
...while those 747 guys keep their pensions (frozen--but at least they exist). Finis, I'm glad you're able to cash in on another 5 years of 777A pay. I am. But don't come here and tell us we should be happy with the stagnation on the bottom third of the list while you've got yours. How many times have you said something like, "things are about to get better" or "we'll get them next time." You don't even need a "next time." I just hope that APC is your outlet for your anger and it's not your wife, kids, or dog. Move on. I don't care what side you came from, we're all better off. Imagine if we hadn't merged...or worse yet we were merging with American, United, US Airways or Southwest :eek:. |
Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 1435139)
I agree, and when I was flying the MD88, I figured I should be paid a whole lot more than a 767 Capt. too! :D:D
For those that weren't around pre-c2k, we had a contractual item 3B6 wherein, we had to agree on payrates before the aircraft could be operated. This gave us great leverage when negotiating 73N and 777 rates. This section of the contract is gone now, but we didn't need it for the last contract...For the (hope of growth) used 717s, we signed a COLA contract. My, how things have changed. |
Originally Posted by Will
(Post 1435269)
When is the next BOD meeting?
When is it? Ps. Purple, sometimes I agree with what you say. I've never agreed with how it's said. Get rid of the anger and more would listen. |
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