But reserves only flew an average of 32 hours a month before this contract. Why would that change? I'm sure you, I, and all the other guys flying near, or in a few cases right up to the contractual limit are just statistical aberrations.

On the other hand, maybe the contract sales department made a mistake and we are actually going to be doing all that flying our new super-efficient work-rules allow. There is going to be a definite change of tone for on me when the next contract negotiations take place. Fool me once...

I am sure this is just sarcasm, but in case there are some that don't know better, no one even implied that domestic pilots were not going to, or be subject to exceeding the ALV. As a matter of fact, there was a lot of debate about this on the forums and in the lounge with the reps, especially wrt actually hitting ALV+15 and that likelihood. The international component was discussed because with the low ALV, a reserve may not even be eligible for many of the trips in the bid package.

I get it that some pilots didn't like this quid for higher guarantee (i dont like it either, but some do fwiw) but at least keep the statements accurate. This one sounds a lot like "ALPA said the company had no money left and yet they bought VA..." (Not crediting you with that FTB) I have not been able to find one quote where Alpa said that our contract ate up all of Delta's disposable cash flow, yet every time they spend a dollar trying to make two dollars, somebody posts "alpa said they didn't have any more money."

Debate whether Alpa got enough and how DPA would have got it all with no quids, but at least be accurate.

Cue the hounds in 3,2,1 and then wonder why so many have left this board.

Please don't tell me that story is making the rounds :eek:

I've flown 85 hours this month; reserve guarantee for ATL88B is 76:30 for June. I called and had the schedulers mark me as "FULL" for my remaining 3 days of reserve.

What was the 88B ALV for June?

Not saying it doesn't suck for the affected pilots, but they are being somewhat balanced out by a whole bunch of guys that were "done" at their lower guarantee that was offset by VAC, ML, CQ, etc. not to mention how many of those guys are at ALV+15 as was predicted on here? It's very difficult to get to ALV+15 the was the trips are assigned and the math has to work out.

Again, I don't have you ALV in front of me but it sounds like some number of reserves flew schedules right on par with a majority of line holders this month. The return was higher guarantee throughout the year (avg of 66 extra hours of pay PER RSV pilot).

Also, do we really need to go over the whole 60 hour self correcting manning formula again? This did not change staffing, it only makes some reserves fly "line holder" months. Not saying its great, but it is what we voted on. Are you surprised that a few reserves went over ALV? They're all done now btw, so they can't reach +15.

The ALPA guys have left this board. Interesting how they all left at once. Seems they didn't like that this board was becoming so influential and they are trying to diminish that.

Look at the page view counts. Everyone else is still here.

If true, you are more efficient than me. I am a lineholder. I was looking at 16 days of work for 87 hours. I did get rerouted into a day off with means I will have worked 17 days this month out of 30 :eek: through no fault of my own. I did not pick anything extra up. My point is the reserves are not the only ones feeling it this summer. All of our contractual changes are being taken advantage of to use less pilots. We know this.

do you still show up on the reserve availability list even though you're full? I'm wondering if the quick sample from the list is hiding others. a lot are sitting in the 60-70 hour range and some of those 80+ are still on their trips.

School house info says 15 A330s with 15 options and I think 30 something A321s.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-o...80-h122-p/Zack

I think I'm the odd ball this month with a 75 hour line but that's because I bid min credit and tear down and rebuild from there. of course I bid min credit else start next for July and got the else start next since out of 400+ lines only 30 were allowed min credit.

but by some calculus were supposedly over staffed on the 88. actually I've heard there is a fear that we will cancel flights for a lack of crews but then I've heard they're okay with the current level of GS/WS as they see it as cheaper than hiring. and unless they're unable to staff on a clear day they'll blame canceled trips on irops.

I'm just eating the popcorn.