Carl,

I have to respectfully disagree with you. While we all know that none of the possible future DPA leadership has been elected, we do know who is in charge of the campaign.

Caplinger has been the voice of DPA. You have to admit that he has stepped on his crank a couple times. Unfortunately his crank stomping really turned some people off, myself included. He has tainted the drive. I wish he would've stepped back from the spotlight much sooner and let someone else be the visible advocate.

One person, be it Lee Moak or T Caplinger, can ruin public support by their choice of words. In Moaks case by some of his actions too. Caplinger is like a big wart on the face of the campaign.

Please understand that this is what I believe. This is my opinion based on what I've been exposed to with this drive. DPA can improve their image by listening to opinions expressed here and other venues. We all have asked ALPA to listen, DPA should do the same.

I'm just one person, but I have talked to many who feel the same way. Right now ALPA is the lesser of two evils. Give me a reason to support the DPA again. Don't give me a list of pro DPA anti ALPA stuff. I know all that. Give me a reason to get behind the PEOPLE responsible for the drive.


Edit....feel free to share this with the DPA leadership.

Excellent post hoser.
Caplinger became a liability with a couple of communiques that showed very poor judgment.

DPA just needs one guy who can bring both credibility and some charisma .
If that person ever shows up, I think DALPA could be in some serious trouble.

Guys have had it with Moakism and constructive engagement. It ain't workin'.
Management is eating our lunch on scope, pay and work rules.

George, I hope you are right. The 777-300ER is the future replacement for the 747's straight from the horses mouth ( as of now). JFK to points in Asia (Hong Kong, Singapore et al) requires a 777LR but most everything else could be served by the A333 ( not ULH), 747's,777's, and 330's and I hope 777-300's. If the big D is planning expansion or just another reallocation will lend in the ultimate decision.

Isn't that really the crux of it all?
I sure would hope the former...

Cheers
George

One thing everybody on this thread can agree with, we are
All tired of reallocation

Would you like to share those tidbits with your buddies?

A few rumors to divert us from union drivel...

My last two trips have been with LCA types so take this with a grain of salt.

321s are on the horizon. These will tie in to getting the 320/319 fleet RNP certified. Airbus was a bit upset after we chose the 737 last time and made the RNP certification cost prohibitive.

As of last they had heard in the WB race Airbus was in the lead based on cost but there were rumblings Boeing may have mad a last minute pitch to win some or all of the order.

As for hiring it sounds like sooner rather then later.

Now back to your regularly scheduled DPA versus DALPA fight....

You know what I'd do with a Billion dollar profit?

Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Maybe even shrink to profitability forever.

By the way FTB, what exactly would you say that you "do here", anyway?

Is that before or after we pass a resolution demanding the reinstatement of 75/76 Domestic, senior reserves forever entitled to never fly and triple dip touch drops? :cool:

BTW I like how you troll.

We don't necessarily disagree hoser. I've not met Tim but I have to admire the energy and dogged determination he's shown despite very long odds, although it couldn't have been done without ALPA's help. I do think Tim's political missteps were based on being so passionate about an independent union. He had to know that the slightest DPA misstep would be ALPA front page news while ALPA missteps (like this one with the NTSB) would be totally ignored and excused by the army of well funded apologists. That's the power of incumbency.

We won't be able to elect the leaders of DPA if and until we win the election. So if you won't vote for an independent union based on the unelected leadership that are running the decertification effort now, then I'm guessing we won't get your vote. If we do decertify ALPA, I sure hope you'll vote to put in leaders that you think will be best.

Carl