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Timbo 07-09-2013 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1442125)
I'm using Navtech and there's no arrow. I've tried two computers...onto the Ipad. Thanks Timbo!


Good Luck Striker!

We're all counting on you! :D

80ktsClamp 07-09-2013 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1442128)
With 4 kids I can say, Been there, Done That! It only took me about 27 years to get a couple weeks off in July to go diving, but I've also got a 67 hr. month to show for it.

Of course I could be at home and chasing greenslips, but I prefer time off when the kids are off, (before they move out!) to Mo'money.

As one Capt. told me years ago:

The problem with GS's is, you have to show up and fly them! :eek:

Whew.. 4 kids. I think I'm going to be good with 2. :)

I'm restricted by the wife from doing a gs this week. Too many things to do on her list! I guess not a bad thing since none have gone out that I would have gotten...

Columbia 07-09-2013 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1442118)

BTW, if you're paying attention, the NTSB has released a boatload of information in the three days. An awesome job actually.

Apparently ALPA doesn't agree.

forgot to bid 07-09-2013 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by grasshopper (Post 1442076)
Criminal I tell ya!!!!

Why can't they get APUs to work like normal jet engines. The main motors don't have that start reliability:( they are only cranked twice as much but fail ten + times more.


Originally Posted by Doug Masters (Post 1442078)
Its not just you. I recently had a -90 with 7...SEVEN!!!...MEL items.

I know Bar likes to give the 88 hell, but I'll take an 88 over a lot of the 90s except for the JAL birds, I like those.


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1442114)
No to distract too much from the Asiana crash or the Zimmerman trial, but is anybody else having issues with PBS? I'm trying to bid days off in August but the only calendar that is available is July.

I seriously thought you meant the channel.

Then I realized I need to go bid.


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1442094)
"it sounds like"

"they probably were"

"I think......"

"they must have......"

"no one saw........."


Keep up your statements boys. I just hope none of you heroes who are quarterbacking this accident end up on the other side of this equation someday. But it can't happen to me, right? says the innocent pilot with the little evidence released by the NTSB.

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80ktsClamp 07-09-2013 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 1442147)
Apparently ALPA doesn't agree.

That was sort of foolish what ALPA put out today. All the NTSB is doing is putting out factual data without conclusions. That is standard protocol.

A bit concerning considering the emails I'm getting now from the DPA on how close they are to filing. I'm afraid the DPA leadership doesn't have the maturity level to take over and run things appropriately, but ALPA keeps on helping them out.

80ktsClamp 07-09-2013 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1442153)

Then I realized I need to go bid.

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Carl Spackler 07-09-2013 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1442194)
That was sort of foolish what ALPA put out today. All the NTSB is doing is putting out factual data without conclusions. That is standard protocol.

It certainly is. The hard data belongs to the NTSB, therefore it belongs to us. As soon as it's retrieved, it needs to be made public. Conclusions and probable cause are another matter as you state. ALPA should know this, but instead the Chairwoman had to remind them and embarrass them (us).


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1442194)
A bit concerning considering the emails I'm getting now from the DPA on how close they are to filing. I'm afraid the DPA leadership doesn't have the maturity level to take over and run things appropriately, but ALPA keeps on helping them out.

None of the DPA leadership after a decertification of ALPA has been elected by Delta pilots yet. So their maturity level can't be judged.

Carl

newKnow 07-09-2013 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1442094)
"it sounds like"

"they probably were"

"I think......"

"they must have......"

"no one saw........."


Keep up your statements boys. I just hope none of you heroes who are quarterbacking this accident end up on the other side of this equation someday. But it can't happen to me, right? says the innocent pilot with the little evidence released by the NTSB.

I don't think we are quarterbacking on here, shy. At least not like you are making it out to be. We just kind of want to know what happened. This is a good place to talk shop.

80ktsClamp 07-09-2013 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1442207)
It certainly is. The hard data belongs to the NTSB, therefore it belongs to us. As soon as it's retrieved, it needs to be made public. Conclusions and probable cause are another matter as you state. ALPA should know this, but instead the Chairwoman had to remind them and embarrass them (us).

Completely agreed.


None of the DPA leadership after a decertification of ALPA has been elected by Delta pilots yet. So their maturity level can't be judged.

Carl
You know my observations/feelings on Caplinger. :)

ShyGuy 07-10-2013 12:39 AM

I side with ALPA (and believe me that pains me), but I give them a thumbs up. Releasing this much info this soon, without any other information is offering an incomplete picture. It's the NTSB, let them take their time. Why release little small facts out of context from the rest of the contributing factors of the accident? This hasn't happened before to the degree of how much they released information. This was a lot. All it does is cause the media to speculate even more and paint the pilots like dirt. The truth should come out in whole, not incomplete bits of pieces. What was their previous 72 hr lookback? Did they sleep onboard during their rest period? Were they fatigued? Those answers they can't give us yet because that is human performance and that takes time. By doing this, people will judge and screw the pilots before the final probable cause even comes out.


Back on subject, DALPA is running again? I hear they have close to 5500 signatures. You guys doing a vote?


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