Snowden on board?

Called in sick yesterday. First sick call for the new cycle and 2nd in last 9+ months(called in march or april but prior to that it was late summer early fall of 2012). Have had 3 calls from a 404 # with no msg left. First call was less than 1 hr after calling in. 2nd call an hour later and another about 15 mins ago, again no msg. Has anyone else had this happen and why won't they leave a recorded msg? Already talked to a rep yesterday after first call.

Dude, take off the anti-ALPA blinders. You have speculated as much as anyone else on here and are part of the problem with this HuffPo mentality to take information and post speculative reasons for the crash without all the information. The data does not belong to the people, the truth does. The truth will come after the investigation and with the final report.

You are willing to give up the right to due process for pilots in order to expedite partial data points that have not been verified, nor checked by the other parties (Boeing/P&W) invited to the crash because you say the citizens have a right to the data as soon as it comes out? I assume you have a poll to back up "The vast majority of citizens agree with her decision to release everything as it's compiled." :rolleyes:

From today's briefing: "What was the final mode the airplane was in?" Hersman asked. "We still need to validate the data. We need to make sure how the devices were set and what the pilots understood the modes to be."

She readily admits the data has not been validated yet. Why even invite Boeing, P&W and others to the investigation if you're just going to Tweet out random data without context and not do the engine breakdown and check the systems.

You're way off the mark on this one because you hate ALPA. You don't see that this is setting the stage for the rest of the world to do the same thing? The court of public opinion and the main stream turned tabloid press are costing people jobs. The same NTSB is the one that publicly vilified NWA 188 before the investigation was complete. Babbit was illegally tested by the police, but it didn't stop the press and pilots on here from bashing him.

Information should be released but only in context.

Is this Tweet valid data for the vast majority of citizens? Is the appearance of an responding normally a factual data point?

Come on, man!

Now there's talk of frickin laser beams... "We really don't know what it could have been," Hersman said. "We need to look into it. We need to understand what he's talking about."

We don't know because the investigation is still unfolding. You don't release murder investigation results daily into the press, you release a complete picture when you've finished the investigation. I guess we'll be seeing you on CNN as the TOD aviation expert upon retiring?

They were flying over the San Francisco bay.
I think we all know where that laser beam came from.

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Kudos to the CPSC. I had a no-notice family medical issue pop up. Called to see what my options were and they completely rearranged my x-days for the rest of the month so I get the time off I need and don't lose any pay. I couldn't have asked for a better response.

I bet every 777 operator, up coming 777 passenger, flight crew member, Boeing, GE or RR don't mind knowing the airplane was working just fine.

Sure that directs attention towards the flight deck but so what? On the flip side of the coin should the NTSB have a gag rule imposed such that the engines had not responded properly the NTSB would vow to say nothing pending the completion of a 12+ investigation? What if another 777 crashed in a week in a similar manner?

Put it this way, we now know a slide deployed inside the cabin. I bet every airline out there with a conscious might take a second look at their safety equipment soon. It's not a bad thing to know.

Where did I say IMPORTANT SAFETY INFORMATION should be withheld? You're just being silly. I'd expect an emergency grounding like the 787 if they knew this kind of information. I said the truth should be released, but with contextual information. The BA plane had RR engines and this has P&W. Either way both engine manufacturers had time to look and fix the issues. I'd expect an uproar from the NTSB and FAA if there was an icing rollback issue, but there wasn't. The FDR data is not a substitute for an engine teardown and that's why the engines are flying home to Connecticut to be inspected. The probability is that the FDR data is correct and the engines worked as they were intended but the NTSB said they appeared to do so. The engine manufacturer won't be cleared until the engine is inspected and there may still be an issue. The press isn't doing due diligence and that hurts us as professional aviators. All for truth just not happy about the press focusing in on the soundbites provided directly by the NTSB.

Was it the one attached to this door? :eek:

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Wonder if the aircraft was FOQA equipped?