Already answered that 'Mr Attack the Messenger and I'll say your an ALPA guy because that will destroy your credibility because I'm Carl and I'm mean." It is an ICAO mandate not mandated by ICAO. I said I got the mandate in the wrong place already. I'm not embarrassed by anything. I simply agreed with a statement that we shouldn't rush to judgment. You seem to think that's BS but seem to support the same opinion so it's just ALPA hate ALPA hate. I'm Carl hear me whine about ALPA so people will listen to the rest of the words I have to say...

Absolutely. I disconnect the ATs NLT 1000 ft AGL on every approach that doesn't require them. FD comes off at least once a trip. And I have no fear of calling in sick. Because when I'm sick I have nothing to hide.

Wow. All that hyperbole in one post!

Here was my favorite part though:

Gotta love it.

Carl

Carl,I am with you on this one,signed anonymous freightdog 400 guy.

Carl the victim!

[Insert face palm here]

That's not simply what you agreed to. Not a single person or entity thus far has advocated rushing to judgment. But I'm glad you agree with that. My disagreement with you is your full throated support of the ALPA press release that bitterly complained about rushing to release the raw data. That's our difference dude. You and ALPA are bitterly whining about something legally performed by the government agency mandated to do so. Not a single legislator, member of the executive branch, or bureaucrat has come out in defense of yours and ALPA's opinion. That's because you're wrong and that press release was an embarrassment to ALPA pilots. The much softer tone of today's ALPA press release tells me somebody told Moak to put a sock in it.

[insert second face palm]

Carl

Can someone provide a simple idiots guide to where DPA stands?

I've heard that their cards already expired and any new drive/vote will require a new set of authorization cards. True?

How many pilots are onboard with DPA, they only need 50% + 1 to pass, correct?

DPA has just under 5,500 properly signed cards from Delta pilots. Of those 5,500 cards, just over 500 have expired because the NMB rules mandate that signed cards are only good for one year. I've had to renew mine three times so far.

You need 50% of the total pilot group to hold a new election for representation rights. To win that election, you must get 50%+1 of all the pilots who decide to vote.

Carl

Imho only, it kind of looks ripped off.

I hadn't really thought about it until PD said it but since the NTSB is not conducting a criminal investigation then is that why the facts can stream out? And imho it isn't accurate to say the pilots are being tried in the court of public opinion.

Now if the pilots intentionally crashed the airplane then it gets kicked over to the FBI and we hear nothing from that point forward. I mean if you look up the 9/11 crashes it basically says SEE FBI...

Where is my jailhouse lawyer Newk?