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acl65pilot 07-19-2013 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1447658)
Section 21.C.8

A recalled pilot:
a. will return to an entry level position (or by mutual agreement between the pilot and the Company, to a position his seniority would entitle him to hold),
b. may be required to complete training for that position, and
c. will be entitled to bid and be awarded an advance entitlement(s) during training.



I would imagine the returnees will be offered some NYC slots as well as the 717s in ATL and DTW.
Maybe even ATL 737 if their seniority can hold it. Any place the training is going to occur anyway.

Beat me to it.

Scoop 07-19-2013 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by groundstop (Post 1447641)
Im scrolling down on the AE posting but don't see the displacements. Must be a mistake?



Its there. This bid is basically 100 self-displacements. 100 FO positions at the lowest pay-scale. Anyone who bids this is either coming from the 717 already (lateral) or taking a pay-cut.

Oh well, I guess they will eventually have to bid the CAPT seats to match, and maybe some junior FO's can get to where they want to be domiciled.

Anyone make any sense out of this? :confused:


Scoop

tsquare 07-19-2013 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1447658)
Section 21.C.8

A recalled pilot:
a. will return to an entry level position (or by mutual agreement between the pilot and the Company, to a position his seniority would entitle him to hold),
b. may be required to complete training for that position, and
c. will be entitled to bid and be awarded an advance entitlement(s) during training.



I would imagine the returnees will be offered some NYC slots as well as the 717s in ATL and DTW.
Maybe even ATL M88 or 737 if their seniority can hold it. Any place the training is going to occur anyway.

I am flying next week with number 11,XXX. I would think they could hold the domesticated 767ER in NY... but this is going to be interesting. If this is NOT for furlough recalls, how will they fill these positions?

PilotFrog 07-19-2013 07:56 AM

If no one puts an AE in for it, and there are no stated displacements, how will it be filled?

tsquare 07-19-2013 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1447664)
Its there. This bid is basically 100 self-displacements. 100 FO positions at the lowest pay-scale. Anyone who bids this is either coming from the 717 already (lateral) or taking a pay-cut.

Oh well, I guess they will eventually have to bid the CAPT seats to match.

Anyone make any sense out of this? :confused:


Scoop

Not as long as we have payrates that.... oh nevermind.:D

tsquare 07-19-2013 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 1447670)
If no one puts an AE in for it, and there are no stated displacements, how will it be filled?

Carl gets a MD.

TeddyKGB 07-19-2013 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 1447670)
If no one puts an AE in for it, and there are no stated displacements, how will it be filled?

With new hires & recalls

iaflyer 07-19-2013 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1447664)
Its there. This bid is basically 100 self-displacements. 100 FO positions at the lowest pay-scale. Anyone who bids this is either coming from the 717 already (lateral) or taking a pay-cut.

Oh well, I guess they will eventually have to bid the CAPT seats to match, and maybe some junior FO's can get to where they want to be domiciled.

Anyone make any sense out of this? :confused:

My guess is that this is setting up for the coming hiring. The company has to be be able to say they offered the slots to existing pilots before they give them to new hires or Furlough Bypass.

georgetg 07-19-2013 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1447664)
Its there. This bid is basically 100 self-displacements. 100 FO positions at the lowest pay-scale. Anyone who bids this is either coming from the 717 already (lateral) or taking a pay-cut.

Oh well, I guess they will eventually have to bid the CAPT seats to match.

Anyone make any sense out of this? :confused:


Scoop

First the company needs to create a surplus of positions to initiate hiring.

Then, as the Furlough bypassees return, some non-posted displacements will occur, most likely in subsequent AEs


Cheers
George

iceman49 07-19-2013 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1447622)
They still have their pensions and medicare kicks in at 65, plus social security. The real reason they stay is the super seniority they have. What other job can you make 60k per year by working 8 days per month (only 5 days 5 of those months) with 5 weeks vacation, paid personal leave, sick time and non rev bennies? Oh, and on those domestic turns, you're in your own bed every night. For passing out cokes and reading people magazine the rest of the time. Stop building them 11 hour day turns and you'd see 3000 of them put in retirement papers the same day.

If that's the case, why wouldn't you?


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