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Carl Spackler 07-19-2013 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by Fly4hire (Post 1447693)
Guessing, but its in the interest of fewer training cycles to let recalls go where their seniority allows, as opposed to training them on the 717 then whatever they bid into on the next AE. You could conceivably have 100 resultant displacements on a vacancy only bid :eek:

Don't know if that's what will happen, but you're 100% right that it could happen.

Carl

johnso29 07-19-2013 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by filejw (Post 1447703)
I was thinking some of these folks are voluntary furlough types.Thats how the mutual agreement placement would come in, must be a few of those still out.

That is something that I'm not certain of. In the case of a voluntary furlough, you may be correct.

TANSTAAFL 07-19-2013 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1446835)
True, but if you go THERE... you don't have the maintenance charges you do HERE...

Sorry, but a DAL uniform jacket in Europe is every bit the aphrodisiac that a $2000 Armani suit is in the USA.

Trust me.

I think those kind of girls care what's in your wallet more whether the jacket is DAL or Armani :cool:

Elvis90 07-19-2013 11:24 AM

Question for those who know: will Detroit's declared bankruptcy today have any impact on the Detroit Wayne County Int'l Airport?

Denny Crane 07-19-2013 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by Fly4hire (Post 1447693)
Guessing, but its in the interest of fewer training cycles to let recalls go where their seniority allows, as opposed to training them on the 717 then whatever they bid into on the next AE. You could conceivably have 100 resultant displacements on a vacancy only bid :eek:

An AE only bid (no displacements listed in the bid) cannot cause displacements. There are either positions available in the category or not. If a recalled pilot goes to a 717 position upon recall (because that's what's available), s/he will have to go thru the AE process to get to where they want to be. Without displacements, that might be kind of hard if the category they are trying to get into does not have any availability other than guys AE'ing to other categories.

I say again, the junior guy in a category will not be displaced out of that category on an AE only bid.

Or, in other words, it takes displacements to cause displacements.

Denny

johnso29 07-19-2013 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1447720)
Thanks and BTW I meant their instead of there. I due no the difference :D

After a 4:30 flight yesterday followed by UPSing myself home, I didn't even notice. :o:D

80ktsClamp 07-19-2013 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by Fly4hire (Post 1447693)
Guessing, but its in the interest of fewer training cycles to let recalls go where their seniority allows, as opposed to training them on the 717 then whatever they bid into on the next AE. You could conceivably have 100 resultant displacements on a vacancy only bid :eek:

This is not correct. Displacements cannot result from an AE.

80ktsClamp 07-19-2013 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1446835)
True, but if you go THERE... you don't have the maintenance charges you do HERE...

Sorry, but a DAL uniform jacket in Europe is every bit the aphrodisiac that a $2000 Armani suit is in the USA.

Trust me.

Yikes!! You're wandering dangerously close to tool territory with this one. :eek:

Hay bro, let's go out in our uniform jackets!

80ktsClamp 07-19-2013 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1447762)
An AE only bid (no displacements listed in the bid) cannot cause displacements. There are either positions available in the category or not. If a recalled pilot goes to a 717 position upon recall (because that's what's available), s/he will have to go thru the AE process to get to where they want to be. Without displacements, that might be kind of hard if the category they are trying to get into does not have any availability other than guys AE'ing to other categories.

I say again, the junior guy in a category will not be displaced out of that category on an AE only bid.

Or, in other words, it takes displacements to cause displacements.

Denny

You beat me to it. :) DENNY CRANE

buzzpat 07-19-2013 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1447785)
Yikes!! You're wandering dangerously close to tool territory with this one. :eek:

Hay bro, let's go out in our uniform jackets!

You mean you don't? ;)


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