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Denny Crane 07-19-2013 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 1447838)
With the new contract there is a seat lock for new hires. Will the furlough returnees be seat locked?


According to 21.C.8, I think Check Essential posted it a couple of pages back, no they will not be seat locked. If I remember correctly, one of the bullets says, if there is an AE out while they are in training, they can use the AE process to bid off their recalled equipment (or something like that).

Denny

Denny Crane 07-19-2013 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1447839)
Thanks Denny, that's good to know. At the old NWA, displacements were possible with any kind of a bid.

Carl

You're welcome! I know this is my optimistic side trying to peek thru but I think, like a stock chart, we have bottomed out on displacements and shrinkage (total amount of pilots on the seniority list). I think we will start a slooooooow climb that will still include periodic dips (displacements probably out of the 75/767 to cover 737-900) but the trend of total pilots will be up and by 2018, when age 65 retirements really start kicking in, everyone's glass will be half full!!:)

Ah, I know, I live in fantasy world (or should I say Mad Cow world)......;).......but I wouldn't be Denny Crane! if I didn't!!:)

Denny

tsquare 07-19-2013 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1447871)
Fighting fires is dirty, hot, dangerous, difficult, work.

Yup. and a totally chosen profession. Not one of them was drafted into doing that job. And they all do not run into burning buildings to save aunt Edna's puppies.

FedElta 07-19-2013 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1447936)
Yup. and a totally chosen profession. Not one of them was drafted into doing that job. And they all do not run into burning buildings to save aunt Edna's puppies.

Somebody P... in your cornflakes, T ?

ImTumbleweed 07-19-2013 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1447936)
Yup. and a totally chosen profession. Not one of them was drafted into doing that job. And they all do not run into burning buildings to save aunt Edna's puppies.

Wow.

Just wow.

Do a google search to see how many firefighters die per year...just doing their "chosen job".

Columbia 07-19-2013 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1447927)
You're welcome! I know this is my optimistic side trying to peek thru but I think, like a stock chart, we have bottomed out on displacements and shrinkage (total amount of pilots on the seniority list). I think we will start a slooooooow climb that will still include periodic dips (displacements probably out of the 75/767 to cover 737-900) but the trend of total pilots will be up and by 2018, when age 65 retirements really start kicking in, everyone's glass will be half full!!:)

Ah, I know, I live in fantasy world (or should I say Mad Cow world)......;).......but I wouldn't be Denny Crane! if I didn't!!:)

Denny

Speaking of a stock bottoming out.....
Delta Air Lines Inc EVP-Mktg Sells 130K Shares and 4 Insider Sales to Note | Wall St. Cheat Sheet

No, wait......

georgetg 07-19-2013 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1447936)
Yup. and a totally chosen profession. Not one of them was drafted into doing that job. And they all do not run into burning buildings to save aunt Edna's puppies.

So that's your take on military service also right?
"a totally chosen profession. Not one of them was drafted into doing that job."

Between the uniform and the above comment you are totally off the reservation...

Cheers
George

Flamer 07-19-2013 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1447986)
So that's your take on military service also right?
"a totally chosen profession. Not one of them was drafted into doing that job."

Between the uniform and the above comment you are totally off the reservation...

Cheers
George

Yup. This logic is an F and completely against the foundations of America. All I can say is "wow".

buzzpat 07-19-2013 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1447936)
Yup. and a totally chosen profession. Not one of them was drafted into doing that job. And they all do not run into burning buildings to save aunt Edna's puppies.

C'mon T. Out of bounds. While I agree that state pensions are running dry, don't blame the recipients. Many of them chose their profession because of the retirement guarantee. Didn't you factor that in when you applied at DAL?

The problem is that the government can back up those plans (so far) while private firms cannot, unless DC rolls in with aid. My biggest ***** with pensions is that Washington chose to not bail out the airlines but did choose to underwrite the auto industry. Over time, our country has chosen to write checks we can't cash. Don't blame firefighters any more then you would blame Marines or national park rangers or cops.

ualheavy 07-20-2013 02:03 AM

Question for you guys,

Friend of mine is on Delta furlough bypass and is seriously considering returning on this wave of hiring. Will he be seat locked 2 years into what ever equipment the company assigns him (like 717)?

Thanks


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