I'm an 07 hire so all the bypassers are senior to me. I doubt it will be that noticable to us that these guys are coming back. Probably about 150 at most will come back. Of those 150 I would bet 100 of them will bid a narrowbody FO position. Of those 100 they will probably be spread out across almost all the bases. So you might in the next six months see at most 10 guys come into your category that are senior to you. Unless you are sifting through everything looking for these guys you will probably not even notice that they are back. The guys who bid the ER will probably sting a little because they will add onto the next round of displacements off the ER. The most noticable thing we will see is 300 guys going through class but only having 150 more guys behind us.

I welcome back every single one of these guys and hope that in the next 30 years we never have to have this discussion again. My life as an 07 hire has been a cake walk compared to what the guys hired in 2000-01 have had....especially the fNWA guys furloughed twice.

Absolutely concur. Thanks.

So in the next year and a half, we will add approximately 150 new guys to our list? That's good. I'm showing 159 retirements in that same time frame. Our overall list size will almost maintain status quo. At least they are replacing the pilots that are leaving. It's better than what has been happening. I still see displacements and backwards movement in the junior guys' futures for the next couple years. It's good news. We just haven't had good news in so long that this seems better than it really is.

That may be the case, but at least you will have more guys behind you. I never try to guess what will happen in the future and I know nobody who knows anything, but I'll bet we don't stop hiring for a very long time going forward.

So is it Furlough Bypass + the 300? Reading conflicting info...

It is good there is some hiring/recalling coming. With that said, if your union...be it ALPA, DPA, Jimmy Hoffa and the boys, etc, ever suggests giving more productivity for airplanes, money, bigger lockers, or anything else......just say HELL NO! We need to stop shooting ourselves in the foot and get our careers back on track.

I was one of those guys; furloughed Jan02, recalled by NWA in Aug 07. At the time of the recall, I had 15 years of AD so I changed from furlough to ML status and was able to stay AD to get my 20 yrs. Good to be back.

The one I knew was intending to come back when they knew they wouldn't be stuck on the 88. I think their plan was to come back to a WB in ATL but as a late 2001 hire I'm not sure if that will work out as they want but they're still coming.

Estimating 300 additional pilots to staff the operation through the end of 2014. Filling those spots will begin by contacting 200 bypass pilots.

So I read that as 300 of which 200 could be bypass and 100 new hires up to 300 new hires if there are 0 bypass guys who return.

yes & no. :)

I make the above statement due to the belief that they'll need more than 300 additional pilots to staff the airline by the end of 2014. (i.e. school house congestion)

My prediction is that they'll hire 550 pilots by the time we're discussing pilot hiring for 2015. (Just a SWAG.)

GJ