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TeddyKGB 07-13-2013 04:05 PM

When a Fur bypass finally recalls are they limited to whatever the class needs are at the time or can they go anywhere their seniority can hold?

Elliot 07-13-2013 04:10 PM


When a Fur bypass finally recalls are they limited to whatever the class needs are at the time or can they go anywhere their seniority can hold?
FUR return & MIL LV return are slotted where their seniority can hold.

daldude 07-13-2013 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1444444)
When a Fur bypass finally recalls are they limited to whatever the class needs are at the time or can they go anywhere their seniority can hold?

I believe they are limited to the needs of the company. That should slow down displacements they will cause for at least a year.

Elliot 07-13-2013 04:18 PM


I believe they are limited to the needs of the company. That should slow down displacements they will cause for at least a year.
Negative. Your belief is incorrect for MIL LV returnees. They go wherever their seniority will hold. (A free move, per se.)

Buzzpat can probably answer the FUR returnee rights more accurately, but "I believe" they also retain their rights to their seniority number & whatever that allows them to hold at the company.

GJ

johnso29 07-13-2013 04:22 PM

Generally recalls go where there are openings. Those returning from military leave go wherever their seniority can hold.


A recalled pilot:

a. will return to an entry level position (or by mutual agreement between the pilot and the Company, to a position his seniority would entitle him to hold),

b. may be required to complete training for that position, and

c. will be entitled to bid and be awarded an advance entitlement(s) during training.

bluejuice71 07-13-2013 05:07 PM

Now that we've announced hiring what do all you negative nellies have to say about it? I've read a number of posts on here that have said no way we are hiring until 2015 at the earliest. Were you guys on crack or did you really believe that crap?

daldude 07-13-2013 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by Gearjerk (Post 1444450)
Negative. Your belief is incorrect for MIL LV returnees. They go wherever their seniority will hold. (A free move, per se.)

Buzzpat can probably answer the FUR returnee rights more accurately, but "I believe" they also retain their rights to their seniority number & whatever that allows them to hold at the company.

GJ

Negative.....LOL

Your correct mil lv return guys go to what they can hold. I know that for a fact and am very familiar with the process, rules, benefits and limitations. I've done it twice.

Of course I have also bypassed furlough recall, but a year later I accepted recall and went on mil leave.

However, the questions was where do furlough bypass guys go when they come back and I said I think they go where the company needs them.

That question has nothing to do with mil leave. Furlough bypass and mil leave have nothing to do with each other as far as recall rights, benefits, entitlements or status in the eyes of the company.

Scoop 07-13-2013 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by daldude (Post 1444470)
Negative.....LOL

Your correct mil lv return guys go to what they can hold. I know that for a fact and am very familiar with the process, rules, benefits and limitations. I've done it twice.

Of course I have also bypassed furlough recall, but a year later I accepted recall and went on mil leave.

However, the questions was where do furlough bypass guys go when they come back and I said I think they go where the company needs them.

That question has nothing to do with mil leave. Furlough bypass and mil leave have nothing to do with each other as far as recall rights, benefits, entitlements or status in the eyes of the company.


Not only the eyes of the company, but also federal Law, Uniformed Services Employment and Reemployment Rights Act (USERRA).

Scoop

Bucking Bar 07-13-2013 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1444439)
You got beef with guys exercising their seniority rights? If they had come back when first recalled, Delta probably wouldn't have hired as many as they did in 07-10. Would you have made the cut back then?

Apples and Oranges. Most of the folks on furlough bypass were f-NWA which would not have effected Delta hiring in 2007.

16X of 20X are senior to me. Some are as senior as 5,3XX and there are a few in the 8,000's.

FlyZ 07-13-2013 06:04 PM

So for the bottom couple thousand it sounds like continued slippage and displacements until next summer when all the bypasses have returned. Then the flows would start coming on, pushing us back to where we are now by fall 14.

Noooooot being a negative Nellie - just seems like this is where we stand. What am I missing?


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