Originally Posted by The Cavalier (Post 1448601)

Remember it was a rule needed for the intl categories and our domestic reserve schedules are not efficient enough to impact those pilots. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1448618)

Look at the hiring for the affiliated regional carriers within your brand. If the regional subsidiary hired more than your carrier furloughed the only logical answer is lack of scope resulted in your furlough.

ALPA's merger policy was watered down in anticipation of the 2000 ALPA Board of Director's meeting requests for merger policy implementation at Delta's wholly owned airlines; ASA and Comair. It was at that BOD where ALPA embarked on a policy of excluding some members of our union from the same protections enjoyed by other members of our union.

When a subsidiary is junior manning Captains from new hire classes during mainline furloughs there is no two ways about it; that is a scope failure.

Today our union continues down this road of outsourcing some members to supposably benefit other members. In a union where every job is precious, this policy is morally wrong. This terrible policy, promulgated by politicians who do not grasp even the basics of unity, are responsible for the furloughs which followed massive outsourcing during our careers.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1448576)

If you've made ALV, you're done..... however:

Your cutoff is ALV, not RSV guarantee. Guarantee is ALV-2 typically, so if you are in between the two, welcome to contract 2012. :) You're good for another ~17 hours of flying.

Originally Posted by DoubleTrouble (Post 1448699)

Perhaps I am not fully understanding your post, but the change to a reserve pilot's obligation to remain on call is substantial, even for a domestic pilot. Under prior contracts when a reserve pilot was within 2 hours of the ALV (or cap even further back), that pilot was done if he/she so desired (one could always yellow slip). Now if a pilot is under the ALV by a minute, that pilot must still be available until he/she has actually gone over the ALV. There can and will be periods when this is a significant benefit to the company.

I imagine the MEC saw the costing for the changes to the last contract and determined that this change was acceptable for the improvements the pilots attained.

Originally Posted by UncleSam (Post 1448628)

Denny,

They will mark you FULL after you have reached the reserve guarantee when they start assigning trips for that day or if you call and ask to be FULL. You are full after passing the reserve guarantee. They can schedule you up to ALV + 15 but you would have to be below the reserve guarantee when that happens or have a yellow slip in. You will not be scheduled for a trip after you pass the reserve guarantee unless you request it.

Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1448715)

Thanks UncleSam. After reading the contract, that's what I think too.

Denny

Originally Posted by p3flteng (Post 1448737)

Any of you guys use the "fly confirmed" option in travel net? My daughter needs to get somewhere for college on a certain day, and there in no wiggle room in the schedule, she needs a confirmed seat. I looked 2 weeks ago and the rate was about 325 coast to coast. Now its just shy of 500! Talk about the company beating up its employees over a supposed benefit! The online travel sites: expedia, travelocity, ect have better numbers than that! It really kinda ****es me off that the price for our supposed "benefit" has gone up as the time gets closer to departure date. As the dates get closer the numbers get higher on the public sites, but I think its wrong to jack it up and do the same to us employees.
Fly confirmed and fly confirmed for less, equals a fail as a benefit.

Rant over.

Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1448557)

Dawgs,

I disagree. The longer the guys stay out the better it is for everyone below them. If all 200 guys came back 5 years ago the bottom 200 pilots who have been making a profit for DAL for 5+ years wouldn't even be DAL employees today.

So when the furloughees eventually come back the bottom guys may see guys coming in above them. It is still much better to be on the DAL seniority list with three or more years of longevity, then trying to get an interview at DAL.
Scoop