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A recalled pilot:
a. will return to an entry level position (or by mutual agreement between the pilot and the Company, to a position his seniority would entitle him to hold),
b. may be required to complete training for that position, and
c. will be entitled to bid and be awarded an advance entitlement(s) during training.

I would imagine the returnees will be offered some NYC slots as well as the 717s in ATL and DTW.
Maybe even ATL M88 or 737 if their seniority can hold it. Any place the training is going to occur anyway.

Thanks! You guys are the masters of finding any reg.

Check Essential

07-19-2013 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1447679)

My guess is that this is setting up for the coming hiring. The company has to be be able to say they offered the slots to existing pilots before they give them to new hires or Furlough Bypass.

That is the right answer.
Technically, they don't "have to" offer these slots to existing pilots but they want to do it to avoid training some guys twice. There might only be 10 or 20 pilots who bid for those 65 DTW 717B slots but they need to identify those guys before they fill the slots with bypass pilots and then have to send them back to school when they bid out.

crazyjaydawg

07-19-2013 08:32 AM

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Our intention is to fill the ATL and DTW openings first with
current Delta pilots and we will award the unfilled openings to furlough bypass pilots and new hires.
We began to notify furlough bypass pilots of their recall during the week of July 15, and the first recall
class is scheduled for November 4th.

Does that not answer a lot of these questions?

Fly4hire

07-19-2013 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1447663)

Beat me to it.

Guessing, but its in the interest of fewer training cycles to let recalls go where their seniority allows, as opposed to training them on the 717 then whatever they bid into on the next AE. You could conceivably have 100 resultant displacements on a vacancy only bid :eek:

johnso29

07-19-2013 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawaii50 (Post 1447652)

I believe they can go where ever their seniority can hold?

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Originally Posted by filejw (Post 1447653)

Bypass recalls hold whatever their seniority allows ....

Incorrect. They go where the company needs them.

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Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1447656)

I though only Mil leave goes where there seniority holds and Fur Bypass goes only into existing openings. This was discussed a few days ago wasn't it?

Correct.

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Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1447658)

Section 21.C.8

A recalled pilot:
a. will return to an entry level position (or by mutual agreement between the pilot and the Company, to a position his seniority would entitle him to hold),
b. may be required to complete training for that position, and

c. will be entitled to bid and be awarded an advance entitlement(s) during training.

Agree. 717 & M88 are most likely.

filejw

07-19-2013 08:56 AM

I was thinking some of these folks are voluntary furlough types.Thats how the mutual agreement placement would come in, must be a few of those still out.

RunFast

07-19-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Fly4hire (Post 1447693)

Aboslutely. During my indoc in 08 we had 3 returnees whom all "bid" international airplanes where their seniority allowed. It should really be no different than MLOA return.

Carl Spackler

07-19-2013 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1447642)

Spoken like a true uber-heavy guy.

Flame on Carl.

Not a flame tsquare. Just responding to what you said here:

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1446835)

Sorry, but a DAL uniform jacket in Europe is every bit the aphrodisiac that a $2000 Armani suit is in the USA.

Trust me.

I'm still getting over that queasy feeling.

Carl

TeddyKGB

07-19-2013 09:26 AM