Just because they sent a letter back saying yes doesn't mean they'll show up for class... There isn't a penalty for prolonging the decision, but if you now out now you have no option later.

 

How do you do that? How do you drag guys into this position? If they didn't volunteer or want to be there, how do you find them? And how much of an asset to the pilot group are they, if they don't really want the job?

 

The government's new attitude is a huge development. Consolidation might be over no matter how many wheels get greased.

We got in just under the wire on our merger and one other big transaction:

Although management and the union misled (to use the polite word) the pilot group about the LGA/DCA slot swap with US Air, after last week's news that whole deal now looks like pure gold for Delta.
We got a lock on a big chunk of LGA slot capacity before the Justice Dept. decided to begin their little anti-trust hissy fit and US Air got a bunch of DCA slots that it now looks like they might have to surrender.
It wouldn't even surprise me if we ended up with some of those same slots back, although most of any divested slots will probably go to new entrants willing to fly to some Congressman's district that doesn't currently have direct DCA service.

 

you know what makes me mad? the thought that pilots who get one of those red A Job Well Done cards from a frequent flier would turn those in for personal gain?!? No. You take those home and you keep them to remind you of who matters most and not go sniveling to the CPOs for some personal gain.

I mean if I did that Id have to turn in 10-12 of those per trip. And that's just for a 2 day trip. But I dont. Fly right people, fly right.

/posting on Delta provided tablet practice

 

Accepting a class date and then just not showing up might not be the wisest move if you ever needed any sort of employment reference in the future. You're kinda screwing Delta if you do that. I can understand a furloughee might have some hard feelings and not care about messing with Delta's training plan but you still have to list them in any future employment history.

A simple "Thanks, but no thanks" would seem far more prudent.

 

quick question, 1 for 2 rules?

 

Section 12.K.

K.

29
30 1. A pilot who reports for duty will be guaranteed a minimum duty period credit. Such
31 credit will be calculated on the greater of scheduled or actual duty time, prorated on a
32 minute-by-minute basis, for each duty period, as follows:
33 a. one hour credit for ever

34 time), and
35 b. one hour credit for every one and three quarters hours of duty time,
36 1)

37 2) from 2200 to release

39 eligible for duty period credit for such duty period(s).

 

I always fly DL and could have submitted a few of those cards in my travels. Yet I have never heard of it (would rather hear about this program than the stupid AMEX sales pitch nonsense). Were does one go to submit one of these cards?

 

Perhaps "dragged" was a poor choice of words on my part. I should have said "persuaded."

Good leadership will identify and motivate guys who are a good fit. And yes, there is still a place for leadership on the company's part.

I've flown with several LCAs who swore they would never do it. But when approached and mentored, they eventually accepted the position. To me, those guys generally have a better perspective than the folks begging for the job.

 

I agree. I flown with several guys who aren't check airmen (like Jughead)* and have no desire to do it, yet I think they would make great LCAs. And then sometimes I fly with one and wonder how in the hell he became one.

*he bought the beer