This happened to me as well. Just take the new rotation number and type it into the rotation tab. A trip will show up. At this point, it won't have your name on it. It will be a crappy trip that has none of the parameter's you used when you bid.

In my case, it increased my trip from a three day to a four day. I would drop it. But, there isn't anything in open time. I can't get a white slip, guys senior to me lap those up no matter how crappy the trip.

I thought we had changed this in the last contract, but after consulting with a DALPA professional, it seems we didn't. My bad. I would avoid carry over trips, but you can't avoid them entirely.

I didn't bid reserve, but it looks like that's really what I got.

So if the entire fleet is flying and not one is in maintenance or not one can be an operational spare then it's not a fleet?

My bet, and I'm no Newk, is that the word fleet was added to prevent the 717s from being acquired and put into storage but that acquisition being enough to allow the CRJ-900s to be ordered and flown on revenue service without the 717s. The word maintenance was in there because that would allow ## CR9s to enter into service even if the required number of 717s had not yet hit the line because they were being refurbished in maintenance.

That's my guess. But let's say it is a violation, 717s in maintenance and not yet flying therefore means no CR9s can be flying but let's say they do anyways, what are we going to do about it? I mean what do we get for that when we find out the 717s are good to go come Nov 1 and in the meantime the company is flying 160 super premium jumbo 76-seater RJs?

What's your definition of constructive engagement? :eek:

Bingo. Surely there is a defined penalty in the PWA should a contract violation occur. I mean, that's what lawyers do, create water tight language to include significant enough penalties to make sure one side doesn't take advantage of the other.

I am coming into this late, but DCI used to routinely accept more than their "permitted" number of aircraft, stating that these jets were not part of the operating fleet, but spares. The spares would flex up and do charters and even last second substitutions for Delta resulting in what was an obvious violation. When called on it management would laugh and say that these extra jets were spares.

ALPA properly nailed down the language to clarify spares are included in the fleet.

How in the world do you not have aircraft in mx while a fleet is flying? There will always be an operational spare and mx occurring.

Anybody know of a gogo login. Used to be *********but that one doesn't work anymore. Sure made commuting nice. Thanks in advance.

So you have no proof to back your claim then?

On the radio I've heard some say "Delta's" (plural) and others say "Delta".

Is there something behind this?

controllers do it too. I heard it a lot more for UAL.