Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1473799)

Didn't 9e return 16 CRJ900s to a lessor in BK?

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1474039)

controllers do it too. I heard it a lot more for UAL.

Originally Posted by strikeplate (Post 1474024)

Anybody know of a gogo login. Used to be ********…but that one doesn't work anymore. Sure made commuting nice. Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1473900)

Carl,

It took some research.

In 1998 ALPA gutted and bifurcated its Merger and Alter-ego policy.

The policy prior to these changes reflected the lessons of the Texas Air fiasco and formally declared that alter egos in any form to be the greatest threat to ALPA and they were not to be tolerated under any circumstances. At that time the definition of an alter ego was "When management forms or acquires another company for the purpose of operating an airline, it shall be deemed an alter ego..." ALPA's policy sought to prevent the formation of alter egos. If formed or acquired, ALPA's weapon of choice was the forced merger of the seniority lists. Thus the reason why the merger and alter ego policies were one in the same.

In 1998 ALPA bifurcated the Merger and Alter-ego policy and, worse, gutted the key definitions in the merger policy making it totally discretionary. ALPA said the primary motive was the Duke-Spellacy case and they didn't want to get pinned down in court again.

The Delta MEC was the instigator of the change and the timing, just months prior to Delta's purchase of ASA, suggests the Delta MEC had advanced knowledge of management's intentions concerning both ASA and Comair.

In effect, you could say ALPA's 1998 decision sowed the seeds of their own decline and the rise of the start-up rival unions. It wasn't just a bad decision, but it was the product of a horribly flawed strategic analysis where objective facts didn't matter.

As stated earlier, the disunity of the DPA is nothing new. It's genesis was right here, it resonates with the logic of the Delta MEC and Admin 15 years ago.

Originally Posted by orvil (Post 1473965)

This happened to me as well. Just take the new rotation number and type it into the rotation tab. A trip will show up. At this point, it won't have your name on it. It will be a crappy trip that has none of the parameter's you used when you bid.

In my case, it increased my trip from a three day to a four day. I would drop it. But, there isn't anything in open time. I can't get a white slip, guys senior to me lap those up no matter how crappy the trip.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1474065)

We're talking about ALPA (Mr. Moak personally) signing a document that actually establishes an alter ego airline. That's what I mean when I speak of the sadness I feel when I see our union signing on to what we fought Frank Lorenzo so hard over 30 years ago.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1473905)

You are correct. President Moak has not been given a completely "free pass." Behind the scenes he has taken a little heat. Most view his actions in balance and aren't going to act on an issue which mostly screws the express pilots.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1473905)

If we end up with the DPA we have no chance to fix it.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1473905)

By structure and design the DPA does not want to undo the harm of disunity. The DPA represents the old radicals that screwed the thing up to being with.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1473905)

ALPA has the structure in place that facilitates restoration.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1473911)

DPA supporters ... if you call for a vote, where do you draw the line on the "craft and class" that you intend to represent?
a. Delta seniority list pilots

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1473911)

b. Pilots within the Delta MEC at merger who are active

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1473911)

c. All pilots who perform Delta Company flying

Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 1474067)

Doesn't this fly in the face of "reserves will all be flying 99 hours a month" complaint?

The fact is in the busy summer months SOME reserves will be abused, some of the time. Other than that reserve is a pretty good gig these days, and reserves got a higher guarantee 12 months a year.

If in fact you can't white slip anything "no matter how crappy the trip" (your words, not mine) then would it not make more sense to just bid reserve and stay home, since white slips always come before any reserve call out?

For all I know that may be your plan anyway.

Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1474045)

Not plural, adjective. Possessive pronoun?