I read the online magazine... where as we got $1500 this year for doing nothing we get $250 next year for doing nothing and $0 the following year for doing nothing. You can make up some of the money by doing physicals etc. but not all of it (less than half). It also mentions premiums going up as well as deductibles.

All in all a net loss to my income well north of $1000 yr. or 1% of my 3% raise. Let's just call it a 1.5% raise in January.

 

Too complicated for a quick response. There is a PBS CQ bidding guide that lays it all out. You can probably pull it off DNET/PBS site, or I can e-mail you a PDF if you PM me your E-mail address.

Scoop

 

The projected Training/Conversion is out for the last AE. Under scheduling section of Deltanet. That's All, now back to your regular scheduled program.

 

The LR can do SIN from JFK (it just cant carry all the mail) and probably Bangkok too, so SEA shouldn't be a problem.

 

They are in a no win position in a sense then: If they say no, and the company then DOES pull down significant flying, there will be a ruckus from the dough boys about how DALPA didn't protect us. If they DO sign an agreement as rumored, you get the emotional response you allude to. So how should they proceed? Will you support them if we tell the company to pack sand and they subsequently pull it down or do you want the protection they negotiated?

I quit thinking suspicious thoughts about this stuff a long time ago. We have to start thinking like investors and businessmen instead of union thugs. Look at today's news for example. There is a Bloomberg article about DAL and VA aligning flights and terminals from JFK to LHR. What did DAL stock do? (crossed $24/share earlier in the day) Wall Street is paying attention to DAL. We are fighting a 2000s style union "war", and we have an alternative group that wants to send us back to the 1940s. JMHO, YMMV, but I do know that DAL stock is treating me pretty well these days... Business is dynamic, not static. Grow or die. Being a member of the investment class is what awaits us when we retire whether or not you want to believe it, so getting a leg up on that concept now will make the transition much much easier, and far more lucrative.

/rant

 

T,

Based on what you just said, do you support a non-unionized pilot group?

If business is so dynamic, and we say yes to everything, for what reason do we have a CBA?

 

Yes. Everything is HIS fault.

 

Thought he was referring to HIS wife.

 

BKK or SIN from SEA it would be no problem. JNB to ATL is about 7800 miles, Bombay to ATL was a little more I think and we were doing that all the time. I was told the 777LR can connect any two cities on the planet nonstop. I know it caries over 21 hours of fuel on board, multiply that by about 480kts true and that's about 10,000 miles nonstop.

 

No I am not saying that at all. But what I seem to hear from those that are dissatisfied with the current group is an all or nothing stance. It doesn't work that way. So I will again ask the question about this particular situation: Will you support dALPA if they say no and the company pulls down flying, or will you be screaming from the rafters that we weren't represented properly?