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Old 10-08-2013 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Okay, I'll start the talk about pay for Contract 2015. Everything else being the same, what's the minimum (within reason) pay hike necessary?

(This ought to be fun!!)

Denny
for starters:

35/15/15/+10% after amendable date
6:00 min day, vaca day, training day
25% holiday override
6 SC/mo & ditch ALV +15-->full at guarantee, period
reserve trip = regular trip
reduce outsourced block hours 50%
LCW max of 80 (will need reworked manning forumula)
tightened JV language


I know that seems like a lowball daydream, but I'm not unreasonable. It's all about incremental gains, right?
Old 10-08-2013 | 04:48 PM
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for starters:

35/15/15/+10% after amendable date
6:00 min day, vaca day, training day
25% holiday override
6 SC/mo & ditch ALV +15-->full at guarantee, period
reserve trip = regular trip
reduce outsourced block hours 50%
LCW max of 80 (will need reworked manning forumula)
tightened JV language
Got it. Everyone, Purple will be a NO vote on C2015.....check.
Old 10-08-2013 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
for starters:

35/15/15/+10% after amendable date
6:00 min day, vaca day, training day
25% holiday override
6 SC/mo & ditch ALV +15-->full at guarantee, period
reserve trip = regular trip
reduce outsourced block hours 50%
LCW max of 80 (will need reworked manning forumula)
tightened JV language


I know that seems like a lowball daydream, but I'm not unreasonable. It's all about incremental gains, right?
Wow. I, as a 6th year 88 FO, would be making nearly $250,000/yr after those raises. An MD88 captain would make $410,000/yr. It's fun to dream about, but the reality is that if that contract were to be implemented, I would most likely be furloughed within a few months.

How could Delta compete with other airlines while paying wages so completely beyond the normal of any American or International airline?
Old 10-08-2013 | 05:01 PM
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Can we slide our vacation? IE so it's not Sunday to Saturday. Change it to Monday to Sunday or Tuesday to Monday
Old 10-08-2013 | 05:02 PM
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Wow. I, as a 6th year 88 FO, would be making nearly $250,000/yr after those raises. An MD88 captain would make $410,000/yr. It's fun to dream about, but the reality is that if that contract were to be implemented, I would most likely be furloughed within a few months.

How could Delta compete with other airlines while paying wages so completely beyond the normal of any American or International airline?
EXACTLY!! For some reason, Purple Drank thinks our negotiators can go to Mgmt. & ask for a 200% raise? Especially when we're already making nearly a $100 more than our brothers-in-profession at US Air.

Purple, please tell us you've been drinking some of Grandpa's moonshine again!

35% + 15% + 15% + (+10%) = approx. 200% increase in pay for 12yr narrow body Captain.

GJ
Old 10-08-2013 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Okay, I'll start the talk about pay for Contract 2015. Everything else being the same, what's the minimum (within reason) pay hike necessary?

(This ought to be fun!!)

Denny

25% per year, for 3 years, oh, and I'll also need about $2 Million deposited immediately into my DC plan!

Still, that won't come close to what I've lost in real dollars since 2004, never mind inflation adjusting.
Old 10-08-2013 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
Answer: We should expect to be paid more than our peers. The work we did with the merger ~ ala the smoothness with which it went ~ is helping the company immensely now.

We should continue to make significant gains in overall compensation, benefits, and work-rules.
You said it perfectly. Some are obsessed with what other airlines make, particularly SW. I have no idea how SW will fare over time, but I don't want to be tied to their fortunes: I want to be rewarded to my contribution to my company's success. Ours have been immense.

Our contributions > our company's success > our company's ability to pay > our returns on contributions.
Old 10-08-2013 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Scottyr6
Can we slide our vacation? IE so it's not Sunday to Saturday. Change it to Monday to Sunday or Tuesday to Monday

If you want to slide your vacation, you have to bid it in PBS, just like bidding your trips. So are you talking about sliding your NOV vacation, or one coming up in Oct? It's too late to slide an Oct. vacation.
Old 10-08-2013 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk
EXACTLY!! For some reason, Purple Drank thinks our negotiators can go to Mgmt. & ask for a 200% raise? Especially when we're already making nearly a $100 more than our brothers-in-profession at US Air.

Purple, please tell us you've been drinking some of Grandpa's moonshine again!

35% + 15% + 15% + (+10%) = approx. 200% increase in pay for 12yr narrow body Captain.

GJ
I thought PDs proposals were actually quite reasonable.

Please show your math on the 200%
Old 10-08-2013 | 05:17 PM
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Trying a vac move up to feb but don't want sun to sat. If I get the move up how do I slide it to tue to mon?
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