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Originally Posted by Check Essential
NO NO NO . That is Dickson's memo. It is not what we have. You are one of our best informed pilots Gloopy, yet you just referred to Dickson's unilateral edict as if it were our contract. That saddens me. I blame ALPA for that. We aren't even putting up a fight. They better have a damn good reason for not putting up a fight. Donatelli writes a good letter but the facts speak for themselves. Here we are in March and he so far seems to be unwilling to defend the contract. He won't even file a grievance. Guys now think and act like Dickson's memo is our contract. Management has won by default. ALPA has forfeited. That is totally unacceptable.
Which brings me to the next item:
I am deeply worried about how this 117 thing is going to turn out. ALPA seems to be in their "what are we going to give up for that" mode.
We shouldn't be negotiating anything right now except the size of the increases in every aspect of our pay and benefits.
We have given until it hurts. We have acted in good faith for years now. Its been long enough. It is time for a little bit of reciprocity from management.
There had better be ZERO concessions in this 117 deal and if this new negotiating committee even whispers about any productivity givebacks then they need to be impeached or recalled or whatever it is we do to remove them immediately.
NO MORE CONCESSIONS !!
Slow your roll there, chief. As you recall, prior to all this, we had a 3pm to 2am mandatory schedule check and acknowledgement window that could, and
very often did stick first day reserves with 5am shows or short calls. And in NYC that was to any of the 3 airports. As it stands right now absent any agreement, we have nothing before noon on day one...
and…nothing has changed with the 3 hours prior acknowledgement window...
and…even discounting that, long call is then 19 hours considering you always had the ability to black them out for 9 hours (via the 3 hours prior part, etc).
As for the bolded part, there will be concessions. DALPA is defending the contract and the empty threat of unpaid personal drops for obeying the contract are not sticking. Obviously, that part, even if nothing else, has to go at some point and for very obvious reasons. Will that be a concession? If so, then let's just walk away now because the company clearly isn't going to give us any gains on this while they get nothing in return. You have to take the emotions out of it.
Nothing before noon on day one was part of SD's unilateral fantasy memo, but that part was a huge QOL improvement for reserves. Actually one of, if not the, biggest improvements in the last couple contracts. By far. As in nothing else even came close. That wasn't a gift from SD by any means, but rather a consequence from 117 and our CBA. The part he totally made up and is
not binding at all is the fantasy 2 hour rolling leash while on long call. And no, not everyone is bowing down to that contractually illegal interpretation. The company is working very hard to give way, way more notice than that. That is why it may appear there is less pressure or urgency than if we were all hard core 3 hour prior with it.
117 negotiations will give something up, and obviously its the 3 hours prior thing that will be gone in exchange for something else. Nothing before noon on day one better remain though, as should a much longer long call. I like 19 hours as that scales very well with no concession and provides structure for the company while still preserving plenty of circadian "black out" time during a window for rest/safety.
Where is the concession in any of that?