Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-10-2014, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
sailing, you are great at asking people for data and getting it and regurgitating it. However, my goodness you are exceptionally awful at interpretation it and application of said data. Yet another case in point right here...
The contract requires a schedule check prior to starting a reserve day grouping. Nothing in 117 changes that. Per 117 that check triggers a requirement for 10 hours off. I have seen nothing from the union stating otherwise.
I can't even grasp why someone thinks that FAR's modify the personal working agreement. They never have and never will unless we write that into the contract. You as a pilot are responsible for complying with all FAR's. You should also comply with the contract however many pilots wave this if it suits them. Again however the contract is a stand alone document.
03-10-2014, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MrBojangles
I also remember clearly reading in that FAQ that they can't require a schedule check on your off day. Did Delta and ALPA not get that memo? It is still in the scheduling reference handbook that we must check it. Isn't this a case where the FAR is more restrictive?
03-10-2014, 02:51 PM
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[QUOTE=80ktsClamp;1599537]Some monday after daylight savings humor:
Giggling!!
My mind went a few different ways on that statement! 
Giggling!!
My mind went a few different ways on that statement!
03-10-2014, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
I think the bullet point is that pilots very, very, far below your seniority were told to monitor their schedules for reserve trip assignments in ways that did not abide the language in our PWA. Some decided to follow their contract and the Company has also followed the contract, or at least not pursued that matter in a form which would result in a grevance yet.
03-10-2014, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Some monday after daylight savings humor:
even my wife, who doesn't like dirty humor, burst out laughing. It takes a while for you to figure out they mean pen.
03-10-2014, 03:32 PM
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Edited. To crude even for me.
03-10-2014, 03:45 PM
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Sorry, Sailing. I'm going to have to disagree with you here. From the "ALPA Guide to FAR 117":
Q-74. Can the certificate holder require a flightcrew member to check
a computer, email calendar, text or other conversation media to
determine assignment, changes, etc. during a rest period?
A-74. No. During a rest period, regardless of length, a flightcrew
member must be free from all restraint. If a flightcrew
member is required to do something by the certificate
holder, he/she is not free from all restraint.
The last-day schedule check is dead. And yes, it is rest.
Q-74. Can the certificate holder require a flightcrew member to check
a computer, email calendar, text or other conversation media to
determine assignment, changes, etc. during a rest period?
A-74. No. During a rest period, regardless of length, a flightcrew
member must be free from all restraint. If a flightcrew
member is required to do something by the certificate
holder, he/she is not free from all restraint.
The last-day schedule check is dead. And yes, it is rest.
03-10-2014, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Interesting that you chose those words. Reverve is reserve whether it is Timbo, me, you or ftb. "seniority" has nothing to do with it.
"Take a month off".
If I lived in the ATL, I'd be all over it too!
Even though we have 3-4X avail (20) vs. req. reserves (5) every day, green slips still go out.
03-10-2014, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Edited. To crude even for me.
PM it to me, I'll be the judge of that!
03-10-2014, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
And several 777 Capts. senior to me are now bidding reserve just to...
"Take a month off".
If I lived in the ATL, I'd be all over it too!
Even though we have 3-4X avail (20) vs. req. reserves (5) every day, green slips still go out.
"Take a month off".
If I lived in the ATL, I'd be all over it too!
Even though we have 3-4X avail (20) vs. req. reserves (5) every day, green slips still go out.
I'm bidding reserve next month because I have vacation. We'll see how it plays out.
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