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03-24-2014, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370
So true. All of my former colleagues who got hired at Emirates around that time are Captains on the 777 or 330 by now. Some can even hold the left seat on the 380. So glad I can hold narrow body reserve as a FO with Tuesdays off 
(not complaining, but the irony...)
(not complaining, but the irony...)The first 97k is tax free so that helps to the tune of $24,300/yr = $2,025/mo
So an 80 hour month= $10548+1,300+2025= 13,873 = $173/hr. (effective rate conversion)
Flying on days off is $176+$16.26/hr, so a 10 hr 2-day pays $515 (not sure on the calc for this)
401k is 12% until after year 10, then 15%
Housing/utilities paid... But you have to live in the sandbox.
This info comes from APC Emirates profile.
I think the recent rebounds in compensation at US legacies is starting to outstrip the MEA's. Another solid round of increases will really start to stem of the flow over to the ME from the US.
Now if the NAI "flag of convenience" model is permitted to work in the US, all bets are off.
03-24-2014, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Claybird
Y'all think Boeing is the only one engaged in this?
Airbus Buys German Bank for In-House Finance Unit
And you think this has NOTHING to do with the recent WTO ruling? Ya, right!
Congress should wake up and assert itself in favor of American businesses.
Airbus Buys German Bank for In-House Finance Unit
And you think this has NOTHING to do with the recent WTO ruling? Ya, right!
Congress should wake up and assert itself in favor of American businesses.
03-24-2014, 07:39 AM
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Much better return on selling crack than flying any aircraft! Possible benefits are all inclusive resort via your local law enforcement.
03-24-2014, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Don't understand why T-Square thinks Boeing's pricing is unreasonable.
We procured 100 737-900s because Boeing boned the 787 program and owed us LOTS of money. What other Boeings have we bought? We ordered a bunch of 321s and a few 330s. So the impending RFP will be telling. My bracket isn't busted on these conclusions and predictions, and in my final four, I have a few 737-900s, but NOTHING bigger from Washington State.
Oh, and how bout my VOLS?
03-24-2014, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Exactly. This isn't about the home team or American jobs, this is about soft fascism at its finest. Boeing is not going away, with or without government welfare for foreign airlines using our own petro dollars to threaten us to subsidize them as they try and yank an entire industry out from under us.
Boeing is nads deep in the extremely bloated global police state "defense" industry as well. They aren't going anywhere. They aren't just too big to fail, they're too big to flush.
As for Ford/Chevy vs Honda/Toyota, which is more "American", a Ford made largely in Mexico, a Chevy made in Canada, or a Honda made in Indiana or a Toyota made in Kentucky?
Boeing is outsourcing tons of jobs to foreign countries, and Airbus is opening plants in the US.
Yet the shieks keep bribing us with our own money and we keep falling for it.
Its far beyond time to close the "Bank of Boeing".
Boeing is nads deep in the extremely bloated global police state "defense" industry as well. They aren't going anywhere. They aren't just too big to fail, they're too big to flush.
As for Ford/Chevy vs Honda/Toyota, which is more "American", a Ford made largely in Mexico, a Chevy made in Canada, or a Honda made in Indiana or a Toyota made in Kentucky?
Boeing is outsourcing tons of jobs to foreign countries, and Airbus is opening plants in the US.
Yet the shieks keep bribing us with our own money and we keep falling for it.
Its far beyond time to close the "Bank of Boeing".
03-24-2014, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Fly4hire
Did they say why? I've flown em' both, generally prefer Boeing from a pilots perspective, but mission, lifestyle, and pay come first, and there is nothing on the Airbus I consider no-go. 330 flying is probably best in the airline if you like international.
But I like MD's too, so you know I'm a cheap date
But I like MD's too, so you know I'm a cheap date
And re-reading my post, I probably said something I should not have said, but I want to explain that comment. I said it was an unsafe design, and that was bad verbiage. To me, it seems to be a great design for a single pilot operation. For the last almost 30 years of my flying career, I have had secondary inputs from the airplane which IMHO are very important when you have another idiot sitting next to you that can change things without your knowledge. Frozen throttles, joysticks that are not interconnected AND out of easy view of the other pilot are a couple of things that (IMO) remove that safeguard.
The other points you raised are the very same issues with, and why I am not interested in flying either the 777 or 747. I still love flying the airplane, and I still love going places. Neither of those missions interest me, and you never get to fly. While the 330 is not in THAT category, for me it comes down to the airplane. It's just not for me. So for all you guys junior to me, you moved up a number as far as holding captain on it, so you should be encouraging more old farts like me to stay off of it.... Unless the rope burns me off thru retirements of 757s, it will be a cold day in Alabama before I learn to speak french.
03-24-2014, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by maddogmax
Having been a LCA on both Boeing and Airbus, I have found that guy's/gal's prefer whichever one they first checked out on. By the way T, the retard call is a reminder not a command. If you Boeing guy's learn the auto throttle properly, you will never hear it. Go Wichita State, Oooops, they just lost. There goes my $billion
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03-24-2014, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
If Boeing is going to go out of business because the EX-IM is not renewed, I still vote us. Boeing will be rescued and hopefully fixed.
Screw the EX-IM bank, and those foreign entities that benefit from it.
03-24-2014, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by iceman49
Much better return on selling crack than flying any aircraft! Possible benefits are all inclusive resort via your local law enforcement.
3 hots and a cot, and whose gonna mess with an 85 year old man?
03-24-2014, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I don't think you will see the larger Mid East carriers go that route. They like to maintain absolute control over their employees. They will not see a real shortage of applicants and if they do they will pay more.
Here comes the supply and demand curve.
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