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Old 03-10-2014 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Some monday after daylight savings humor:



even my wife, who doesn't like dirty humor, burst out laughing. It takes a while for you to figure out they mean pen.
Old 03-10-2014 | 03:32 PM
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Edited. To crude even for me.
Old 03-10-2014 | 03:45 PM
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Sorry, Sailing. I'm going to have to disagree with you here. From the "ALPA Guide to FAR 117":

Q-74. Can the certificate holder require a flightcrew member to check
a computer
, email calendar, text or other conversation media to
determine assignment, changes, etc. during a rest period?
A-74. No. During a rest period, regardless of length, a flightcrew
member must be free from all restraint.
If a flightcrew
member is required to do something by the certificate
holder, he/she is not free from all restraint.

The last-day schedule check is dead. And yes, it is rest.
Old 03-10-2014 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Interesting that you chose those words. Reverve is reserve whether it is Timbo, me, you or ftb. "seniority" has nothing to do with it.
And several 777 Capts. senior to me are now bidding reserve just to...

"Take a month off".

If I lived in the ATL, I'd be all over it too!

Even though we have 3-4X avail (20) vs. req. reserves (5) every day, green slips still go out.
Old 03-10-2014 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Edited. To crude even for me.

PM it to me, I'll be the judge of that!
Old 03-10-2014 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
And several 777 Capts. senior to me are now bidding reserve just to...

"Take a month off".

If I lived in the ATL, I'd be all over it too!

Even though we have 3-4X avail (20) vs. req. reserves (5) every day, green slips still go out.
Of course. My point was that all this angst can happen to ANYBODY that bids reserve. Seniority has little to do with it....

I'm bidding reserve next month because I have vacation. We'll see how it plays out.
Old 03-10-2014 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Sorry, Sailing. I'm going to have to disagree with you here. From the "ALPA Guide to FAR 117":

Q-74. Can the certificate holder require a flightcrew member to check
a computer
, email calendar, text or other conversation media to
determine assignment, changes, etc. during a rest period?
A-74. No. During a rest period, regardless of length, a flightcrew
member must be free from all restraint.
If a flightcrew
member is required to do something by the certificate
holder, he/she is not free from all restraint.

The last-day schedule check is dead. And yes, it is rest.
Good luck with that and let me know how it goes for you. I would however call DALPA and tell them your interpretation of the rule. A day off contractually is not required rest under FAR 117. If you are required to check your schedule contractually then any rest is broken and you now require 10 hours off. The company is complying with that.
It's also exactly the same as any other long call assignment under 117. If you are required to answer the phone then your rest is broken and you must have 10 hours off before you report. In this case your required to make a schedule check. You then must have 10 hours free of duty. They can't require to do anything during that period or you require another 10 rest. Go back about 4 pages in the thread and read the reply from contract admin. Regarding this.

Last edited by sailingfun; 03-10-2014 at 04:28 PM.
Old 03-10-2014 | 04:24 PM
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[QUOTE=forgot to bid;1599585]

even my wife, who doesn't like dirty humor, burst out laughing. It takes a while for you to figure out they mean pen.

Glad she thought it was funny! I knew exactly what they meant but I'm warped!!! First I though that was one hell of an evening if it got broke and the job must not have been finished!!

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Old 03-10-2014 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Of course. My point was that all this angst can happen to ANYBODY that bids reserve. Seniority has little to do with it....

I'm bidding reserve next month because I have vacation. We'll see how it plays out.
I'm bidding reserve next month cause I have vacation and training. My 28 day look back makes me useless prevacation and I'll green slip afterward on x days. I'm hoping ALPA doesn't TA some LOA and mess up my plan.
Old 03-10-2014 | 05:37 PM
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Pretty sure sailingfun is correct on this one. If u follow tne far and contract and dont make any assumptions, just do a straihht "if I follow the pwa and do this, then the pwa and or fars require THAT...." then you just end up with a 10hr rest after your sched check, whenever u do it.
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