Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-09-2014, 04:54 PM
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Agreed, we should not be giving any Capt or F/O OE recovery up.
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03-09-2014, 05:14 PM
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Door pay could be really important down the road. The FARs haven't changed, operators abilty to monitor forward movement under own power has. It started with the 777 and the EMB-145. All new [certified] airplanes since have been installed with wheel speed sensors [that can be recorded via the AirInc 429 bus.] This is not NEW - my previous carrier tried to do this is in 2003/04 but we stopped them with door pay and protections of recorded data.
03-09-2014, 05:30 PM
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Any one remember how ALPA said that Contract 2012 was going to make Delta Pilots paid more than SWA pilots? Well, looks like SWA management hired a new VP of HR, RANDY BABBITT! He has constructed a website to tell the SWA employees how over paid they are.... SWATogether Check out the video too!
Also, remember all those fancy charts that ALPA put out showing our total compensation exceeding SWA? Now, take a look at Randy's fancy charts and graphs for the SWA pilots! Pilots | Employees | SWATogether
Looks like SWA pilots exceeded Delta in EVERY single category of compensation!!!
Things that make you go HMMMM!
Also, remember all those fancy charts that ALPA put out showing our total compensation exceeding SWA? Now, take a look at Randy's fancy charts and graphs for the SWA pilots! Pilots | Employees | SWATogether
Looks like SWA pilots exceeded Delta in EVERY single category of compensation!!!
Things that make you go HMMMM!
Data!?
STATISTICAL DATA!!?
I'm excited, their whole contract is there to look at, but honestly, my expectations are well managed at this point and I don't expect much. maybe t/c.
03-09-2014, 05:34 PM
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Unfortunately, guys like tsquare will gladly give up recovery, scope, and pretty much anything else affecting F/Os (and themselves--but they can't be convinced of that) if it means they can get a couple more bucks an hour.
03-09-2014, 05:47 PM
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So the 787 is nearing certification.
I mean A350. The 787 is being certified as it goes.
I mean A350. The 787 is being certified as it goes.
03-09-2014, 05:50 PM
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03-09-2014, 05:56 PM
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03-09-2014, 05:59 PM
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03-09-2014, 06:38 PM
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03-09-2014, 07:29 PM
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NO NO NO . That is Dickson's memo. It is not what we have. You are one of our best informed pilots Gloopy, yet you just referred to Dickson's unilateral edict as if it were our contract. That saddens me. I blame ALPA for that. We aren't even putting up a fight. They better have a damn good reason for not putting up a fight. Donatelli writes a good letter but the facts speak for themselves. Here we are in March and he so far seems to be unwilling to defend the contract. He won't even file a grievance. Guys now think and act like Dickson's memo is our contract. Management has won by default. ALPA has forfeited. That is totally unacceptable.
Which brings me to the next item:
I am deeply worried about how this 117 thing is going to turn out. ALPA seems to be in their "what are we going to give up for that" mode.
We shouldn't be negotiating anything right now except the size of the increases in every aspect of our pay and benefits.
We have given until it hurts. We have acted in good faith for years now. Its been long enough. It is time for a little bit of reciprocity from management.
There had better be ZERO concessions in this 117 deal and if this new negotiating committee even whispers about any productivity givebacks then they need to be impeached or recalled or whatever it is we do to remove them immediately.
NO MORE CONCESSIONS !!
Which brings me to the next item:
We could be on the verge of huge concessions, yet some people would rather eat those than lose the windfall of 2 or 3 guys per category who can buddy bid the entire month off as if that were some necessary entitlement for pilot QOL. I disagree and depending on where other things go with these negotiations, that low hanging fruit will probably fall off the tree on
its own anyway.
its own anyway.
We shouldn't be negotiating anything right now except the size of the increases in every aspect of our pay and benefits.
We have given until it hurts. We have acted in good faith for years now. Its been long enough. It is time for a little bit of reciprocity from management.
There had better be ZERO concessions in this 117 deal and if this new negotiating committee even whispers about any productivity givebacks then they need to be impeached or recalled or whatever it is we do to remove them immediately.
NO MORE CONCESSIONS !!
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