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Bucking Bar 11-03-2013 04:34 PM

http://d121tcdkpp02p4.cloudfront.net...49303/md12.jpg

The Europeans didn't think of ugly airplanes first. Douglas was already there.

S3toHerk 11-04-2013 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog (Post 1512629)
Hypothetical...

7 days on reserve. Get a 4 day trip followed by a 11 hour rest period. Once the trip is over, if they don't already have a trip or short call assigned, when is the soonest they can assign something? Also, what if any obligation is there to answer the phone during the rest period? Trying to figure out if they can extend that rest to 24 hours while I'm in the rest period to make me legal for another 3 day assignment or do they have to wait until the rest period is over to assign more rest (thus breaking the rest)

I'm sure that's ridiculously confusing.

For the correct answer, call DAL ALPA and ask to speak to scheduling, or go on to the ALPA scheduling forum and ask there.

iaflyer 11-04-2013 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog (Post 1512629)
7 days on reserve. Get a 4 day trip followed by a 11 hour rest period. Once the trip is over, if they don't already have a trip or short call assigned, when is the soonest they can assign something? Also, what if any obligation is there to answer the phone during the rest period? Trying to figure out if they can extend that rest to 24 hours while I'm in the rest period to make me legal for another 3 day assignment or do they have to wait until the rest period is over to assign more rest (thus breaking the rest)

I'm sure that's ridiculously confusing.

I'll give it a shot.

If after your 4 day trip ends, you check your schedule as required and there is no trip or SC, you immediately go on Long call. So you could then be leaving the airport, they could call with a trip 12 or more hours out, or a SC assignment that starts within 10 hours (plus 2 hour show, 12 hours)

There is no obligation to answer the phone during your 12 hour long call, but you have to acknowledge any trip/SC assignment prior to 3 hours to show. If they put you on a 24 hour break (1 in 7) you have an obligation to check your schedule 9 hours prior to that 1/7 ending. They do have to assign the additional rest after a trip (to make it a 1/7) prior to starting the 1/7 rest.

What I see scheduling doing is, while you're on the last day of that 4 day, they'll add additional rest at the end of your trip to make it a 1/7 if they think they'll need you. So when you do your post flight schedule check, you'll see it (and have to acknowledge it) then.

All this is going to change Jan 2014 when we go to the 117 rules, I'm just not exactly sure yet.

forgot to bid 11-04-2013 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1512702)
The problem might be that we have Boeing expectations for a Douglas product. After a while you just apply the high speed rejected takeoff criteria; fire, failure, fear ... outside of that it will probably make it from Atlanta to Jackson Mississippi and back.




"It flew in here, it will probably fly out ... gimme another unfiltered Camel"
Donal Willis Douglas, Dr.

Boeing?

http://www.nycaviation.com/newspage/...3/07/snip6.jpg

http://resources2.news.com.au/images...s-737-hole.jpg

http://images.publicradio.org/conten...d-plane_33.jpg

forgot to bid 11-04-2013 04:50 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1512369)
http://cdn.cnwimg.com/wp-content/upl...e-jet-girl.jpg

Technical question. I've got a King Air trip coming up. Did the previous pilot leave the ground high heat swith on? Hoped some of you could examine this cockpit photo and help a guy out.

I see no pilot. I see no other passengers.

Typical FBO ramper having fun with his girlfriend in your company's airplane.

forgot to bid 11-04-2013 04:53 AM

More of Boeing's great and recent achievements...

http://blog.isett.com/wp-content/upl...96188287_n.jpg

http://www.scanavphoto.no/_img/full_...t/KGL_0134.jpg

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps2ffb6897.jpg

FmrFreightDog 11-04-2013 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1512889)
I'll give it a shot.

If after your 4 day trip ends, you check your schedule as required and there is no trip or SC, you immediately go on Long call. So you could then be leaving the airport, they could call with a trip 12 or more hours out, or a SC assignment that starts within 10 hours (plus 2 hour show, 12 hours)

There is no obligation to answer the phone during your 12 hour long call, but you have to acknowledge any trip/SC assignment prior to 3 hours to show. If they put you on a 24 hour break (1 in 7) you have an obligation to check your schedule 9 hours prior to that 1/7 ending. They do have to assign the additional rest after a trip (to make it a 1/7) prior to starting the 1/7 rest.

What I see scheduling doing is, while you're on the last day of that 4 day, they'll add additional rest at the end of your trip to make it a 1/7 if they think they'll need you. So when you do your post flight schedule check, you'll see it (and have to acknowledge it) then.

All this is going to change Jan 2014 when we go to the 117 rules, I'm just not exactly sure yet.

Good info. Thanks.

tsquare 11-04-2013 04:58 AM

DAL over $27 in premarket trading today... up $.40. Nothing unusual in the news today either....

scambo1 11-04-2013 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1512369)
http://cdn.cnwimg.com/wp-content/upl...e-jet-girl.jpg

Technical question. I've got a King Air trip coming up. Did the previous pilot leave the ground high heat swith on? Hoped some of you could examine this cockpit photo and help a guy out.

Bump. Because she should be every 3rd post.

iaflyer 11-04-2013 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by S3toHerk (Post 1512886)
For the correct answer, call DAL ALPA and ask to speak to scheduling, or go on to the ALPA scheduling forum and ask there.

Good idea for him to contact ALPA, but the ALPA scheduling forum doesn't exist anymore, it has been transitioned to the new Blog format.

ALPA's stupid new "blog" format seem specifically designed to avoid discussion and free flowing talk. Before, you could easily scan the list of topics and see what interested you, and easily respond. Now, it's a more complicated and difficult format to use.


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