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Originally Posted by NERD
(Post 1524099)
Personal drop question. Say you need the first day of a four day off, is it possible to put in the drop request for the rotation number and only the first day and drop the whole trip, then pick up a trip on day two or three? Thanks
Originally Posted by newKnow
(Post 1524108)
I think the only time they won't let you fly on drop days is when you use an APD, bro. :D
To answer your question, you can PD the whole thing, and then WS/GS on any of those days - it's as if they were off days or X days for a RSV pilot. I've never tried it, but I would guess that the PD works like an APD (which I have dropped like this) in that you can only PD one day of the rotation and the whole thing will drop, subject to coverage. It's not as big of a deal with the PD though, because you can pick back up on a PD day. **I'm 99% sure this is all right, but I have been wrong more times than not. If you really want to be sure you can call 1-800-USA-ALPA and they will be able to tell you in a heartbeat. Put your dues $ to work! :D |
Originally Posted by orvil
(Post 1524096)
FAA to Check Obese Pilots for Sleep Apnea
By ABC News Nov 20, 2013 8:05am Obese pilots and air traffic controllers will soon need to be screened over concerns that their weight is causing them to lose sleep and negatively affects work performance, according to the Federal Aviation Administration. FAA flight surgeon Fred Tilton said Tuesday that under the new policy all pilots and air traffic controllers with a body mass index (BMI) over 40 or a neck measurement of more than 17 inches will have to be checked by a sleep specialist before they can get their medical certificate to work. The issue, Tilton says, is obstructive sleep apnea, which “is almost universal in obese individuals.” “Obstructive sleep apnea in obese patients is a common condition, and it results in lack of enough sleep or quality sleep. As a result they remain sleepy during the day,” said Dr. Gholam Motamedi, a neurologist at Georgetown University Medical Center. Eventually, the plan will move to test all pilots and air traffic controllers with a BMI of 30. Body mass index calculates weight divided by height. That means a 6-foot tall man with a BMI of 40 would weigh nearly 300 pounds. With a BMI of 30, that same man would weigh 220 pounds. This plan comes five years after two pilots aboard a Go Airlines flight between islands in Hawaii fell asleep and overshot the airport. The flight eventually landed without further incident but the National Transportation Safety Board launched an investigation. The captain, according to the NTSB, was obese and later diagnosed with apnea. Former fighter pilot and ABC News consultant Stephen Ganyard said lack of sleep or quality of sleep can affect a pilot’s ability. “It really has the same physiological effects as drinking. And so you don’t want a drunk pilot flying your airplane any more than you would want a pilot who hasn’t had appropriate sleep flying your airplane,” Ganyard said. Yes-- Yes, I would like fries with that. |
Originally Posted by contrails
(Post 1524158)
While non-revving out of NGO a couple weeks ago on the 744, three pilots walked up and greeted the agents, and then the fourth came up a couple minutes later...he just looked a little...off.
http://2-akamai.tapcdn.com/images/th...00-animate.jpg I had to wonder... Could it be...? I have found that guys that want to be found out, usually will make it obvious - in this camp I've met George, Bar, ACL, Shiznit, and a handful of others. Every once in awhile I'll come across one that just flat out gives himself away without realizing (PilotFrog, paging PilotFrog :p ) It was the TCU phone case and his presence in a certain location that he had just mentioned on this thread that outed him. As with every Delta pilot I run into from this thread, it was great to put a face with the (screen)name. In all fairness, I always introduce myself as LeineLodge after I figure out who someone is. Fair is fair. Makes this place a little more interesting too if you know you could be held accountable for what you write. :eek: |
Originally Posted by LeineLodge
(Post 1524171)
This is my understanding as well. The gouge is to only APD 1 day of a rotation, and it will drop the whole thing (if there is sufficient coverage, and you meet all the holiday period criteria in the PWA.) Then you can pick up on the other couple days if you need to find some time. Any date that has APD on it is a HARD day off (like VAC) and you cannot put anything there.
To answer your question, you can PD the whole thing, and then WS/GS on any of those days - it's as if they were off days or X days for a RSV pilot. I've never tried it, but I would guess that the PD works like an APD (which I have dropped like this) in that you can only PD one day of the rotation and the whole thing will drop, subject to coverage. It's not as big of a deal with the PD though, because you can pick back up on a PD day. **I'm 99% sure this is all right, but I have been wrong more times than not. If you really want to be sure you can call 1-800-USA-ALPA and they will be able to tell you in a heartbeat. Put your dues $ to work! :D LL, You are correct. The only drop days that you can not pick up on are the actual days that the APD (and APD only) touches, not all the days of the pairing. Scoop |
Originally Posted by LeineLodge
(Post 1524171)
This is my understanding as well. The gouge is to only APD 1 day of a rotation, and it will drop the whole thing (if there is sufficient coverage, and you meet all the holiday period criteria in the PWA.) Then you can pick up on the other couple days if you need to find some time. Any date that has APD on it is a HARD day off (like VAC) and you cannot put anything there.
To answer your question, you can PD the whole thing, and then WS/GS on any of those days - it's as if they were off days or X days for a RSV pilot. I've never tried it, but I would guess that the PD works like an APD (which I have dropped like this) in that you can only PD one day of the rotation and the whole thing will drop, subject to coverage. It's not as big of a deal with the PD though, because you can pick back up on a PD day. **I'm 99% sure this is all right, but I have been wrong more times than not. If you really want to be sure you can call 1-800-USA-ALPA and they will be able to tell you in a heartbeat. Put your dues $ to work! :D |
Originally Posted by CVG767A
(Post 1524174)
So, IOW, the fat guys get to go out early on long term disability.
Yes-- Yes, I would like fries with that. Supersize those fries. |
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1524230)
Yee haw! A .gov early out program. I didn't think of it that way. :D
Supersize those fries. |
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1524230)
Yee haw! A .gov early out program. I didn't think of it that way. :D
Supersize those fries. |
Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
(Post 1524250)
T, your next batch of fries are on me! ;)
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
(Post 1524130)
Well in this case, I had the wrong person. Apparently, NERD and I have never met. My bad.
But I have flown with several F/O's who are on this board... no secret underboob hand signals were needed to figure it out... :D Carl |
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