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Originally Posted by Jay5150
(Post 1534895)
That thing's a bit wordy for me, but is this the gist of it?
You are on long call reserve. They could, with 2 hours notice convert you to short call, and then give you a trip with a 2 hour report. Basically giving a long-call guy a trip that signs in 4 hours from the first attempted contact? If that is right, then there is no longer any such thing as long-call reserve. E-mail on the way. I don't care what DALPA thinks they can get in return, this is a no-go item. One thing that keeps popping out is that "10 hours or prospective rest". Basically in order to ensure a pilot is not contacted within that 10 hours free of duty period a pilot must be able to acknowledge a short call/trip assignment within 2 hours. So even if a short call assignment was assigned to a reserve pilot the assignment could not be within 12 hours, of which you would have to acknowledge said assignment within 2 hours. The same would be true for a trip assignment, assigned no less than 12 hours prior to report, but you would need to acknowledge within 2 hours. Bottom line is that they still cannot schedule you within 12 hours for a trip or short call because scheduling would still need to allow 2 hours to acknowledge and 10 hours of rest. Feel like I'm missing something here though..... |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1534860)
I took a long and relaxing break from the forum. I came back because I feel a very important issue has come up. What I find here is the same usual whining about everything. The CLT layover hotel not being good enough? Give me a break. Its one of the very best areas in CLT and a great layover. Overall our hotels are very good. There are exceptions but we are head and shoulders above SW overall and virtually every other airline. We have a few bad ones but the hotel committee works very hard to fix those issues.
The reason I came back to the forum is that yesterday a issue worth whining about came up that has tremendous implications for the entire Delta Pilot Group. Flight operations decided to unilaterally abrogate the contract starting 1 January. They are without any agreement with the union eliminating the 9 hour response window for a long call reserve. EVERY PILOT should be very concerned about this issue. I have already called my rep this morning and am planning more calls. He was as astounded by the letter from SD as I was. I recommend every pilot read the letter and make a attempt to contact their CP office and express your feelings on the subject. You should also contact your DALPA reps. I expect and demand a strong response from the union. IMO the company can not unilaterally make this change because they don't like the side effects. |
Originally Posted by index
(Post 1534900)
Oh, and what type of "strong response" are you expecting? New lanyards?
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Sorry to say that my first thought was "what will DALPA give up so we can keep long call?"
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Gents,
This letter from Dickson is exactly they type of thing my reps said would happen. The company wants the FAR 117 changes to the PWA at no cost. They are going to make life more difficult for us until they get what they want. If you are MSP 320 you noticed another shot across the bow, 80% of are trips are 4 and 5 day trips. Last time I checked we were about 70% local pilots and 30% commuters. The vast majority preferring 3 and 4 day trips. DALPA needs to stand strong on this I am more than happy to put up with these tactics by the company as long as DALPA responds and we make gains out of this. I am willing to be flexible to some of the companies desires but in return I want average daily credit of 5:30, i.e. no more 13:30 3 days. Also how about another 5 to 10% on with the avg daily credit increase. By the way who ever doesn't like the CLT layover walk to the other side of the mall and check out Cowfish. You'll be a convert. |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1534880)
What's cute is that they think this plan will work. Sorry, but they signed a contract. They have to honor it. If they need a change, they'll have to give something up for it. :D It's not like Pt 117 snuck up on them.
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Originally Posted by jabwmu
(Post 1534760)
If your re-routed into a day off and on reserve, do you get any time above guarantee or no extra pay? I know one would get a payback day but not sure about pay.
Thanks. A rerouted reserve pilot who is not scheduled to release within four hours of the scheduled release of the last duty period of his original rotation will receive single pay and credit (or the applicable pay, no credit for a GS, GSWC, IA, or IAWC) for the rotation as flown, plus single pay no credit (in addition to any other form of pay for the bid period) for any duty period that extends beyond such four hour limitation and into either: a. an X-day, or b. a regular line day-off. Exception one: If such rerouted pilot is not scheduled to release at his base within such four hour time limitation due to a circumstance over which the Company does not have control (e.g., pilot's origin or destination airport closed, weather on pilot's routing, mechanical on pilot's assigned aircraft) he will receive only single pay and credit (or the applicable pay, no credit for a GS, GSWC, IA, or IAWC) for the rotation as flown. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1534755)
Alaska strikes back, sorta:
Alaska Airlines will begin daily nonstop service between Salt Lake City and Portland, Ore., Los Angeles, San Diego and San Jose, Calif., starting June 9, and will add a third nonstop flight to its existing service between Salt Lake City and Seattle. Sale fares on the new flights will be available for booking Tuesday, Dec. 10. |
I am anything but a "burn the house down" kind of guy and many times discretion is the better part of valor, but I do see this as a very important issue for the Delta MEC and the Delta pilots.
My guess based on the fact this was not addressed earlier, that it has been part of the 117 negotiations and was intentionally left out of 13-10 because it was still being addressed. Obviously the negotiations stalled and the company decided to unilaterally change a previously negotiated agreement. Many times IMO, we have had disagreements and have not gone public and have been able to solve them in private (which is not necessarily a bad thing), but in this case the company just blasted a very large shell across the bow. Even though this is relatively small issue, I see it as a defining moment for this MEC as obviously the company refused to follow the protocol of the last several years by going directly to the pilots with this. Will this move DALPA out of their comfort zone? it will be interesting to see. |
Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
(Post 1534913)
Spot on. Negotiate what? Just abide by the PWA and FAA mandates. Simple.
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