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Old 01-08-2014 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Its not until 1000 tomorrow, and I acknowledged online... so no rest issue nor did I even speak to anyone. I was curious if they might get snippity and call since I waited over 2 hours just to test them, but nada.
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Old 01-08-2014 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
I wonder if the company is artificially inflating the green slip response time sample size in an effort to compile data for upcoming grievances and/or readdressing 117 rules with the FAA.

"Guys aren't acknowledging normal assignments in a timely manner....but they have no problem acknowledging short notice green slips and flying the same trip with different rest rules."
But that wouldn't be a valid argument, right? Per the new regs a reserve guys rest assignment doesn't start until he acknowledges, & he must have 10 hours rest. That's not a choice.

Someone on their X day or day off is not on duty, & therefore must not have a required amount of rest before the FDP begins. So if the trip starts on a guys X day, they have no argument. And if it's starts on his reserve day, he can't accept it anyway. So they have no argument.

I'm thinking out loud here, so feel free to chime in.
Old 01-08-2014 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
But that wouldn't be a valid argument, right? Per the new regs a reserve guys rest assignment doesn't start until he acknowledges, & he must have 10 hours rest. That's not a choice.

Someone on their X day or day off is not on duty, & therefore must not have a required amount of rest before the FDP begins. So if the trip starts on a guys X day, they have no argument. And if it's starts on his reserve day, he can't accept it anyway. So they have no argument.

I'm thinking out loud here, so feel free to chime in.
If you read 23. S. 1. d and 23. S. 6. b I don't see how we are even required to accept anything on our first day after an x-day. I've got a noon SC tomorrow on my first day and the way I read stuff I have to check my schedule no later than 0200 so as to be able to ack the SC no later than 1 hour prior to when it starts. I read this to say we can't be legal for any SC period on our first day back unless we voluntarily accept it.
Old 01-08-2014 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
If you read 23. S. 1. d and 23. S. 6. b I don't see how we are even required to accept anything on our first day after an x-day. I've got a noon SC tomorrow on my first day and the way I read stuff I have to check my schedule no later than 0200 so as to be able to ack the SC no later than 1 hour prior to when it starts. I read this to say we can't be legal for any SC period on our first day back unless we voluntarily accept it.
I think you need to read the memo put out by the company regarding their interpretation and how to comply and that the current PWA rules for checking schedules and acknowledging assignments do not agree with current company policy.

Just my understanding.
Old 01-08-2014 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 1234
I think you need to read the memo put out by the company regarding their interpretation and how to comply and that the current PWA rules for checking schedules and acknowledging assignments do not agree with current company policy.

Just my understanding.
Ah...what? The PWA rules do not comply with current company policy? Who cares? The PWA is a legally binding contract between two parties - company policy is not. Or, maybe, your comment was meant to be TIC or something - sorry if I missed it.
Old 01-08-2014 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
That's what I thought. We are probably a lot alike and would be friends if we were neighbors. That's why we shouldn't take personal assessment shots at each other on an anonymous web board.
Good assessment.
Old 01-08-2014 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 1234
I think you need to read the memo put out by the company regarding their interpretation and how to comply and that the current PWA rules for checking schedules and acknowledging assignments do not agree with current company policy.

Just my understanding.
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Old 01-08-2014 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
I was bored and just reading the 2014 "Flight Plan" for the Company. One of the bullet points under Revenue struck me as odd (being that Seattle is not considered a hub in our contract).

Here it is: Continue to build brand awareness and strengthen Seattle as a domestic and international hub....

Denny
Well one if we add any more flights at SEA, I think we will have to be considered a hub, which would help with our code shares language in the PWA. What is it, 100 flights a day to be a hub?

Next I like that they are looking to continue to build SEA as a hub. Maybe they can add a narrow body here so me and about 30+ others I know (A and B alike) that live here can finally drive to work instead of commute before we retire. Yes it's about us and would be nice Or maybe that 138% increase of flying on the ER they have 5 months out of the year they can keep half of that here instead of say ATL?

Sorry rant over, back to booking the jumpseat to get home to and from work
Old 01-08-2014 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DARR31
Maybe they can add a narrow body here so me and about 30+ others I know (A and B alike) that live here can finally drive to work instead of commute before we retire. Yes it's about us and would be nice
I'd be surprised if it's only 30 or anywhere near that number...?
Old 01-08-2014 | 09:59 PM
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So, if we (per SD memo) have to acknowledge a long call to allow 10 hours of rest prior to report, am I completely free of any responsibility of long call 10 hours prior to a short call period?
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