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23 S. 5. d. A long call pilot can be converted to short call no earlier than ten hours from the first attempted contact by Crew Scheduling and will be released from duty during the ten hours immediately preceding the start of his short call period.
2 A. 72. “Delta hub” means ATL, CVG, DTW, JFK, LAX, LGA, MEM, MSP, SLC, and any other airport having a monthly average of at least 100 Delta scheduled flight departures per day.
Exception: SEA is not a Delta hub, regardless of the number of scheduled flight departures.
Well one if we add any more flights at SEA, I think we will have to be considered a hub, which would help with our code shares language in the PWA. What is it, 100 flights a day to be a hub?
Yes, it is 100 flights or more a day but for one exception: Seattle. Here is the language: “Delta hub” means ATL, CVG, DTW, JFK, LAX, LGA, MEM, MSP, SLC, and any other airport having a monthly average of at least 100 Delta scheduled flight departures per day. Exception: SEA is not a Delta hub, regardless of the number of scheduled flight departures.
Next I like that they are looking to continue to build SEA as a hub. Maybe they can add a narrow body here so me and about 30+ others I know (A and B alike) that live here can finally drive to work instead of commute before we retire. Yes it's about us and would be nice
Or maybe that 138% increase of flying on the ER they have 5 months out of the year they can keep half of that here instead of say ATL?
Sorry rant over, back to booking the jumpseat to get home to and from work
Yes, it is 100 flights or more a day but for one exception: Seattle. Here is the language: “Delta hub” means ATL, CVG, DTW, JFK, LAX, LGA, MEM, MSP, SLC, and any other airport having a monthly average of at least 100 Delta scheduled flight departures per day. Exception: SEA is not a Delta hub, regardless of the number of scheduled flight departures.
Next I like that they are looking to continue to build SEA as a hub. Maybe they can add a narrow body here so me and about 30+ others I know (A and B alike) that live here can finally drive to work instead of commute before we retire. Yes it's about us and would be nice
Or maybe that 138% increase of flying on the ER they have 5 months out of the year they can keep half of that here instead of say ATL?Sorry rant over, back to booking the jumpseat to get home to and from work

My comment was meant to point out the rather blatant exception that the company says on the one hand it's a hub and in the other that it's not.....I understand the reason is Sec. 1. O. 3. I just find it, shall we say........interesting.
Denny
Edit: Oops, I see my protege answered it!
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Hey, don't get me wrong. I'm lucky enough to be based in Seattle and I say bring on any and all flying we can get! I would love to see a narrow body base here. I also know a lot of guys who would bid Capt and/or FO on it in a heartbeat. Hopefully it will be sooner rather than later.
My comment was meant to point out the rather blatant exception that the company says on the one hand it's a hub and in the other that it's not.....I understand the reason is Sec. 1. O. 3. I just find it, shall we say........interesting.
Denny
Edit: Oops, I see my protege answered it!
My comment was meant to point out the rather blatant exception that the company says on the one hand it's a hub and in the other that it's not.....I understand the reason is Sec. 1. O. 3. I just find it, shall we say........interesting.
Denny
Edit: Oops, I see my protege answered it!

Makes me wonder -who- let the SEA Exception into the contract in the first place?

And why?

And maybe it should be removed now, while we are in 117 Negotiations?
From our Live Contract: "Exception: SEA is not a Delta hub, regardless of the number of scheduled flight departures."
Makes me wonder -who- let the SEA Exception into the contract in the first place?
And why?
And maybe it should be removed now, while we are in 117 Negotiations?
Makes me wonder -who- let the SEA Exception into the contract in the first place?

And why?

And maybe it should be removed now, while we are in 117 Negotiations?
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Heard in the lounge that a good, latest estimate of profit-sharing (gross) is 8.3% of the FLT PAY + FLT advance for 2013, as derived from your Dec 31 2013 pay statement.
In my case, I divided the number by my current hourly pay, and it's ~ 76 hours.
I offer no guarantees whatsoever that any of this is correct.
In my case, I divided the number by my current hourly pay, and it's ~ 76 hours.
I offer no guarantees whatsoever that any of this is correct.
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Not sure what's going on with the 320's. Ships up to 3250 are coming up on their end-of-life cycles. Airbus publicly doesn't have a life-extension program for 320's and in the past has said it wouldn't offer one. But it's widely known on Virgina Ave that Richard wanted Airbus to offer a program for the oldest birds. I'm assuming if the release says the 60+ 320's then some sort of life extension program is in the works. Then again, my understanding has been the fleet plan took into account only keeping 3251 through 3278 around past 2015.
Not sure what's going on with the 320's. Ships up to 3250 are coming up on their end-of-life cycles. Airbus publicly doesn't have a life-extension program for 320's and in the past has said it wouldn't offer one. But it's widely known on Virgina Ave that Richard wanted Airbus to offer a program for the oldest birds. I'm assuming if the release says the 60+ 320's then some sort of life extension program is in the works. Then again, my understanding has been the fleet plan took into account only keeping 3251 through 3278 around past 2015.
Sticking new seats and overhead bins into the 320's is not a very big project compared to what they have in store for the 757's- (IFE, new lavs, new lighting, seats, galleys, bins...) I don't think it will greatly affect the retirement of the oldest A320's. If airbus is offering a life extension program for the 320's, that would be big news in the industry, and so far there's no news...
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Heard in the lounge that a good, latest estimate of profit-sharing (gross) is 8.3% of the FLT PAY + FLT advance for 2013, as derived from your Dec 31 2013 pay statement.
In my case, I divided the number by my current hourly pay, and it's ~ 76 hours.
I offer no guarantees whatsoever that any of this is correct.
In my case, I divided the number by my current hourly pay, and it's ~ 76 hours.
I offer no guarantees whatsoever that any of this is correct.
The 5% reduction comes to $125,000,000 reduction of what would have gone to the employee profit sharing plans for all groups. I was just curious what that would have amounted to for pilots.
I'm sure this will get things going back and forth, but regardless I think it's important to see the hard number of what this concession actually cost the pilot group in retrospect.
Before I get accused of being a "black helicopter flying overhead" pilot, I'll say that it was good to see a transition of our compensation from profit sharing into our actual month to month pay checks.
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Anyone have any formulas to calculate profit sharing under our old PWA (15% first $2.5 billion)?
The 5% reduction comes to $125,000,000 reduction of what would have gone to the employee profit sharing plans for all groups. I was just curious what that would have amounted to for pilots.
I'm sure this will get things going back and forth, but regardless I think it's important to see the hard number of what this concession actually cost the pilot group in retrospect.
Before I get accused of being a "black helicopter flying overhead" pilot, I'll say that it was good to see a transition of our compensation from profit sharing into our actual month to month pay checks.
The 5% reduction comes to $125,000,000 reduction of what would have gone to the employee profit sharing plans for all groups. I was just curious what that would have amounted to for pilots.
I'm sure this will get things going back and forth, but regardless I think it's important to see the hard number of what this concession actually cost the pilot group in retrospect.
Before I get accused of being a "black helicopter flying overhead" pilot, I'll say that it was good to see a transition of our compensation from profit sharing into our actual month to month pay checks.
Worth it? I'm not sure.
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