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DARR31 01-08-2014 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1554647)
I was bored and just reading the 2014 "Flight Plan" for the Company. One of the bullet points under Revenue struck me as odd (being that Seattle is not considered a hub in our contract).:rolleyes:

Here it is: Continue to build brand awareness and strengthen Seattle as a domestic and international hub....

Denny

Well one if we add any more flights at SEA, I think we will have to be considered a hub, which would help with our code shares language in the PWA. What is it, 100 flights a day to be a hub?

Next I like that they are looking to continue to build SEA as a hub. Maybe they can add a narrow body here so me and about 30+ others I know (A and B alike) that live here can finally drive to work instead of commute before we retire. Yes it's about us and would be nice ;) Or maybe that 138% increase of flying on the ER they have 5 months out of the year they can keep half of that here instead of say ATL?

Sorry rant over, back to booking the jumpseat to get home to and from work :(

contrails 01-08-2014 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by DARR31 (Post 1555059)
Maybe they can add a narrow body here so me and about 30+ others I know (A and B alike) that live here can finally drive to work instead of commute before we retire. Yes it's about us and would be nice ;)

I'd be surprised if it's only 30 or anywhere near that number...?

80ktsClamp 01-08-2014 09:59 PM

So, if we (per SD memo) have to acknowledge a long call to allow 10 hours of rest prior to report, am I completely free of any responsibility of long call 10 hours prior to a short call period?

Alan Shore 01-08-2014 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1555067)
...am I completely free of any responsibility of long call 10 hours prior to a short call period?

Yes, that's always been the case.

23 S. 5. d. A long call pilot can be converted to short call no earlier than ten hours from the first attempted contact by Crew Scheduling and will be released from duty during the ten hours immediately preceding the start of his short call period.

Alan Shore 01-09-2014 12:02 AM


Originally Posted by DARR31 (Post 1555059)
Well one if we add any more flights at SEA, I think we will have to be considered a hub, which would help with our code shares language in the PWA. What is it, 100 flights a day to be a hub?

Unfortunately, that does not apply to SEA:

2 A. 72. “Delta hub” means ATL, CVG, DTW, JFK, LAX, LGA, MEM, MSP, SLC, and any other airport having a monthly average of at least 100 Delta scheduled flight departures per day.
Exception: SEA is not a Delta hub, regardless of the number of scheduled flight departures.

Denny Crane 01-09-2014 12:09 AM


Originally Posted by DARR31 (Post 1555059)
Well one if we add any more flights at SEA, I think we will have to be considered a hub, which would help with our code shares language in the PWA. What is it, 100 flights a day to be a hub?

Yes, it is 100 flights or more a day but for one exception: Seattle. Here is the language: “Delta hub” means ATL, CVG, DTW, JFK, LAX, LGA, MEM, MSP, SLC, and any other airport having a monthly average of at least 100 Delta scheduled flight departures per day. Exception: SEA is not a Delta hub, regardless of the number of scheduled flight departures.

Next I like that they are looking to continue to build SEA as a hub. Maybe they can add a narrow body here so me and about 30+ others I know (A and B alike) that live here can finally drive to work instead of commute before we retire. Yes it's about us and would be nice ;) Or maybe that 138% increase of flying on the ER they have 5 months out of the year they can keep half of that here instead of say ATL?

Sorry rant over, back to booking the jumpseat to get home to and from work :(

Hey, don't get me wrong. I'm lucky enough to be based in Seattle and I say bring on any and all flying we can get! I would love to see a narrow body base here. I also know a lot of guys who would bid Capt and/or FO on it in a heartbeat. Hopefully it will be sooner rather than later.

My comment was meant to point out the rather blatant exception that the company says on the one hand it's a hub and in the other that it's not.....I understand the reason is Sec. 1. O. 3. I just find it, shall we say........interesting.

Denny

Edit: Oops, I see my protege answered it!:D

Timbo 01-09-2014 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1555079)
Hey, don't get me wrong. I'm lucky enough to be based in Seattle and I say bring on any and all flying we can get! I would love to see a narrow body base here. I also know a lot of guys who would bid Capt and/or FO on it in a heartbeat. Hopefully it will be sooner rather than later.

My comment was meant to point out the rather blatant exception that the company says on the one hand it's a hub and in the other that it's not.....I understand the reason is Sec. 1. O. 3. I just find it, shall we say........interesting.

Denny

Edit: Oops, I see my protege answered it!:D

From our Live Contract: "Exception: SEA is not a Delta hub, regardless of the number of scheduled flight departures."

Makes me wonder -who- let the SEA Exception into the contract in the first place? :eek:

And why? :rolleyes:

And maybe it should be removed now, while we are in 117 Negotiations?

flyallnite 01-09-2014 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1555113)
From our Live Contract: "Exception: SEA is not a Delta hub, regardless of the number of scheduled flight departures."

Makes me wonder -who- let the SEA Exception into the contract in the first place? :eek:

And why? :rolleyes:

And maybe it should be removed now, while we are in 117 Negotiations?

WE did. Just another way we paid for our raises.

Sink r8 01-09-2014 05:26 AM

Heard in the lounge that a good, latest estimate of profit-sharing (gross) is 8.3% of the FLT PAY + FLT advance for 2013, as derived from your Dec 31 2013 pay statement.

In my case, I divided the number by my current hourly pay, and it's ~ 76 hours.

I offer no guarantees whatsoever that any of this is correct.

n9810f 01-09-2014 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1554703)
That's what I was thinking. Putting money into all 69 320s is good news. They aren't getting the IFEs like the 319s, but refurbing them has to extend their life for 3-5 year min I'd think.

Not sure what's going on with the 320's. Ships up to 3250 are coming up on their end-of-life cycles. Airbus publicly doesn't have a life-extension program for 320's and in the past has said it wouldn't offer one. But it's widely known on Virgina Ave that Richard wanted Airbus to offer a program for the oldest birds. I'm assuming if the release says the 60+ 320's then some sort of life extension program is in the works. Then again, my understanding has been the fleet plan took into account only keeping 3251 through 3278 around past 2015.


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