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Scambo: We got Cognac/Breadsticks, after the pax get finished with 'em.
Timbo: Yes, damned chilly in JFK. A reasonable approach speed for them was about 128 plus something for the gusts, add in TAS and the tailwind, they had a GS of 180, at least. The landng distance would have off the charts, literally. While 604/605 have great brakes, the 601s, not so much. GF |
Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
(Post 1565187)
Scambo: We got Cognac/Breadsticks, after the pax get finished with 'em.
Timbo: Yes, damned chilly in JFK. A reasonable approach speed for them was about 128 plus something for the gusts, add in TAS and the tailwind, they had a GS of 180, at least. The landng distance would have off the charts, literally. While 604/605 have great brakes, the 601s, not so much. GF It's finally warm enough down here to go out on the dock with a beer and watch the sunset, and play with the dogs without a heavy jacket, but it was too cold this morning. Nothing like up there, but 34 is just too cold for Florida! At least I didn't have to shovel my car out. Have fun with that! |
Originally Posted by shiznit
(Post 1565169)
Hurry! Put your DPA card in, we need to leave ALPA before they assess all of us for the settlement; dues will skyrocket and bankrupt us all!:rolleyes:
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RFB for 787 vs 350 this Qtr...
let's have them race them! 8 |
Originally Posted by NWA320pilot
(Post 1565243)
ALPA was found guilty of DFR and now has a financial responsibility for payment. Glad they are on our side. :rolleyes:
No Admission. It is expressly understood and agreed that this Settlement Agreement does not in any way embody, reflect, or imply any admission of wrongdoing on the part of any of the Released Parties, and the parties hereto may not use it for such purpose in any subsequent legal proceeding. Neither this Settlement Agreement nor any proceedings undertaken in accordance with the terms set forth herein shall be construed as or deemed to be evidence or an admission or concession by any of the Released Parties as to the validity of any of the Released Claims. 11 years for a jury to find ALPA "liable" is not slam click case. Either way it's a long way from the $700-$1.7 BILLION that we have to leave ALPA for before we get assessed. This was the Elmer FUDs of all FUDs. Fear: You may have to pay for this Uncertainty: You may have to pay for this Doubt: You may have to pay for this Reality: You won't have to pay for it. (Not pay, as in, not pay out of pocket like APA and USAPA) The DPA made their foundation on this lawsuit and others. They never mention the lawsuits that get dismissed or won. They don't mention that in a future merger that the same thing could happen with ariline pilots from XYZ suing DPA and the pilots would be liable for paying out of pocket then. Pilots suing pilots is a growing business. Define fair to a Walmart jury. A recent law study showed that lawyers have figured out that the money lies in DFR suits against unions and that DFR suits are up four-fold. DFR's aren't happening more. More people are suing because it's tough to prove and defend. The DPA needs to continue showing why they would be better and stop messing around with UAL, JBLU, retirees and whatever else they have up their sleeves and concentrate on making Delta better and not just saying why everything sucks. My little girl can do that for free. |
Originally Posted by 8 Cherry Garcia
(Post 1565256)
RFB for 787 vs 350 this Qtr...
let's have them race them! 8 |
Originally Posted by NWA320pilot
(Post 1565243)
ALPA was found guilty of DFR and now has a financial responsibility for payment.
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Originally Posted by bigbusdriver
(Post 1565257)
Plantiffs have agreed to No Admission. That's a stipulation of the agreement
Most large succesful law firms brag about their ability to settle before reaching court for the very reason that they are in buisiness and that's to make money for themselves. The actual plantiffs are not going to get very much money from this, regardless of assigning blame, only the lawyers win this one. 11 years for a jury to find ALPA "liable" is not slam click case. Either way it's a long way from the $700-$1.7 BILLION that we have to leave ALPA for before we get assessed. This was the Elmer FUDs of all FUDs. Fear: You may have to pay for this Uncertainty: You may have to pay for this Doubt: You may have to pay for this Reality: You won't have to pay for it. (Not pay, as in, not pay out of pocket like APA and USAPA) The DPA made their foundation on this lawsuit and others. They never mention the lawsuits that get dismissed or won. They don't mention that in a future merger that the same thing could happen with ariline pilots from XYZ suing DPA and the pilots would be liable for paying out of pocket then. Pilots suing pilots is a growing business. Define fair to a Walmart jury. A recent law study showed that lawyers have figured out that the money lies in DFR suits against unions and that DFR suits are up four-fold. DFR's aren't happening more. More people are suing because it's tough to prove and defend. The DPA needs to continue showing why they would be better and stop messing around with UAL, JBLU, retirees and whatever else they have up their sleeves and concentrate on making Delta better and not just saying why everything sucks. My little girl can do that for free. |
Originally Posted by Sink r8
(Post 1565263)
Actually, I think your statement is false. I don't like what happened to the TWA pilots, but 1) there never was such a finding, and 2) the actual settlement numbers are way closer to "nothing happened" than the numbers you would expect in a finding of guilt.
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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot
(Post 1565264)
I'm not advocating for the DPA but I'm also not satisfied with the job ALPA is doing.
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