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Old 01-31-2014 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by APCLurker
The bolded part of your quote is the key. In the memo world only.
Now apparently they are even departing from the memo.
Dickson originally said nothing before noon on the first on call day.
Seems we are now getting 10 AM short calls.

Looks like they are just going to keep squeezing us tighter and tighter as long as nobody fights it.

Just my opinion, but I think its about time DALPA quit being so passive.
Management is slowly and methodically shoving our contract right down our throats. You'd think the union would react.

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Old 01-31-2014 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Now apparently they are even departing from the memo.
Dickson originally said nothing before noon on the first on call day.
Seems we are now getting 10 AM short calls.

Looks like they are just going to keep squeezing us tighter and tighter as long as nobody fights it.

Just my opinion, but I think its about time DALPA quit being so passive.

I agree. Looks like we posted close together. They aren't even following their own memo anymore. I wouldn't say nobody is fighting it. People here are calling about things like 10am short calls.... hopefully others do as well.

EDIT: Also agree on the dalpa end of it. We need some strong leadership and positioning on this, with no ambiguity.
Old 01-31-2014 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
Well, crew accommodations is not even a Delta department. They are a third party company that is in some off site location in ATL. Payroll is the same way.
Partly true. Crew accommodations is handled by a different company, but their personnel are located in the OCC (usually 3-4 on duty).

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Old 01-31-2014 | 12:25 PM
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Anyone use Dr. Miles Brett for their Medical? If so pirep please....
Old 01-31-2014 | 12:37 PM
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Coming off an X day, you are obligated to check your schedule at 1500 to before 0200 BASE TIME (The Reserve day following your last X day). If you are on a Vacation Day, no need to and this does not apply.

You are always on Long Call Status, unless they convert you to SC or give you a trip (FDP). You need at least 10 hours REST (12 hours if the start of SC or FDP is 0200-0559) before the start of SC or FDP.
i.e. If you have not acknowledged your assigned SC or RDP by 10 hours to go (12 hours for 0200-0559), you are not legal to do it.

You are always on Long Call. You are only obligated to check your schedule every NINE (9) hours via computer or VRU..Its time stamped.

If in this 9 hour check, there are no assignments, you can shut your phone off until the next 9 hours. i.e. Im on LC and at 1000 I check my schedule via icrew but I am not assigned anything so I shut my phone off for 9 hours. At 1900 I am obligated to check my schedule.

In other words. Long Call Pilot is on a 12 Hour Leash but is only obligated to check his schedule every 9 hours and acknowledge it no later than 3 hours before the start of an FDP. Or acknowledge a SC assignment no later than 1 hour prior to SC.

Also, when you are given a REST PERIOD, you have to acknowledge no Later than 6 hours AFTER THE REST BEGINS. Then you can turn everything off.

One important note, a LC pilot has no obligation of responsibility for contact during the 12 hour immediately prior to scheduled report time of rotation or 10 hours prior to start of ASSIGNED SC.

I hope this helps. This is what I come up with by looking over the 117 notes and literature.

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Old 01-31-2014 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Just my opinion, but I think its about time DALPA quit being so passive. Management is slowly and methodically shoving our contract right down our throats. You'd think the union would react.
What sort of reaction are you looking for, that wouldn't look impatient or foolish? The union has already told us in writing that we should respect the terms of the PWA WRT conflicts with Part 117. Meanwhile, negotiators are sitting at the table (fine), but evidently not yielding (even better).

This is the part where we sit tight, like big boys and girls, and make sure that we respect our actual obligations, while negotiations take place. All we need to do is calmly defend our rights, and time is our leverage. Hystrionics demonstrate impatience, and impatience demonstrates a willingness to agree to weak terms.

Check your calendar: we're not even in our second month under Part 117.
Old 01-31-2014 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
Timbo, I don't know much about sailing. Curious how fast boats like that in the video go?
Some have said their little Garmin hand held GPS's have shown speeds as high as 20kts, but I have only seen 17.7 on mine. This video (and my boat) is on a 16' cat though, the 18's and 20's are a bit faster, as you would expect.

Now, if you really want to blow some dough, there are new full foiling, 100% carbon fiber 16' and 20' cats that claim 30 knots up on the foils, but the 16' costs over $30K and I think the 20' is about $45K!

Too rich for my blood!

Here's the 16' foiling cat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgCz94GhcMc

Here's the new Nacra F20 carbon ($45K): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgaV8EBeuO8

Here's a carbon 25' foiling cat, but it's also got a solid wing. These are called C cats, and they are well over $100K http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C8ll...92028CB1CB5B0A

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Old 01-31-2014 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by APCLurker
I agree. Looks like we posted close together. They aren't even following their own memo anymore. I wouldn't say nobody is fighting it. People here are calling about things like 10am short calls.... hopefully others do as well.

EDIT: Also agree on the dalpa end of it. We need some strong leadership and positioning on this, with no ambiguity.
While I too would like to see 'strong leadership' from dalpa, they must tread very carefully through this issue or face a lawsuit over an illegal job action. That happens, we lose.

Dalpa has said only that we have a contract in force. Know that contract and abide by it, and dalpa will back you up.

There is nothing more anyone can do than that.
Old 01-31-2014 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
What sort of reaction are you looking for, that wouldn't look impatient or foolish?
For starters, I'd like to see them file a grievance.

Or at least communicate to us why they haven't.
Old 01-31-2014 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
While I too would like to see 'strong leadership' from dalpa, they must tread very carefully through this issue or face a lawsuit over an illegal job action. That happens, we lose.

Dalpa has said only that we have a contract in force. Know that contract and abide by it, and dalpa will back you up.

There is nothing more anyone can do than that.
They should be reiterating it everyday like a mantra..

Also, assuring that reps will be with anyone whom is asked to see a CP after a PD.
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