Originally Posted by cstudent (Post 1577793)

I sent a couple sentence message to the selection address prior to their interview day just to reiterate my support. My guys went four for four. It may have been helpful or it may be I'm friends with people much nicer than me. It's worth a shot.

Originally Posted by 76drvr (Post 1577775)

So according to the union the cumulative staffing impact difference between with or without C2012 through 2013 was predicted to be 180 (757-577). How many pilots did we have in the 717 category at the end of 2013; 289? Did the mainline grow by 26 aircraft in 2013? How many pilots returned from MLOA or Furlough by-pass to fill active categories? How many pilots got a captain upgrade in 2013? What were the staffing levels in 2012 vs 2013? Were we overstaffed in 2012? If so, by how much and how does that compare to 2013?

Originally Posted by CVG767A (Post 1577615)

You're absolutely right. I have a friend who I know from Navy flight school that couldn't make the jump to the airlines. He says hanging out with a group of airline guys is unbearable-- he has to suffer through listening to guys whining about his dream job.

Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1577778)

Anyone know for certain if I say "else next bid group" does it go to Reduced lower limit (if I select it) or if next bid group is always a reserve bid?

Originally Posted by RetiredFTS (Post 1577876)

cstudent,
To clarify, your candidates were invited for an interview prior to your email?
Do you or anyone happen to know how to find that letter/email link on the Deltanet page?

Thanks all.

Originally Posted by bohicagain (Post 1577946)

Going for new hire sim training Mid Late March to Mid April. Any ideas on places to stay either car or no car. 4 of us have similar schedule and would be ideal to rent a furnished place... any ideas?

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1577031)

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Originally Posted by RockyBoy


That is a perfect cliff version of the ALPA roadshows to sell us C2012. I'm sure that is what the company told them and the believed it so I guess we can only blame ourselves for taking the bait second hand. I guess that's what we should expect when we send in the negotiators that got a weekend crash course vs. professional negotiators for the largest airline in the world.




I would love to see you produce one tiny shred of evidence that this anything approaching a true statement. You look like a fool when you repeat this kind of drivel.

But for the sake of argument, why do you think that a "professional negotiator" who has zero skin in the game (he is going to get paid regardless of the outcome) will have any idea the requirements and pitfalls of what it is like to be an airline pilot? What is it about this particular phrase or concept... "professional negotiator" that makes you and others think that we will get a better deal? How are they going to know what it is that we need? How will they know what we are willing to accept? What if they have to make a decision in the room on the fly? How will they do that? And lastly but most importantly, who is to blame if they make a professional decision, and YOU are not happy with that decision? What is your recourse. Remember, his response is probably going to be "too bad, so sad, my check better clear"....

Stupid, stupid charges you level.

Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 1577997)

Make a decision on the fly? Yeah, you could promote shooting from the hip or, I don't know, maybe research it? Or go with making a decision on the fly--"change the bid months in the summer from 31 to 30? Uhh, ok, sure. Explain why that's good for me again?"

As for professional negotiators, doesn't the world understand that pilots are the smartest people in the world and no one can do a better job at anything than us?!!! Companies like GE, 3M, IBM and others are stupid for using consultants. What could an outside lawyer tell us anyway, that our scope wording allows for 3 years of abuse before the avg can be calculated? That would just take away opportunities to fix snafus through LOAs and for DALPA to tell us how awesome a job they did, and everything is better than it ever could be. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1577779)

If I thought something was missing from my timecard for last month, I'd be calling the Company and then DALPA scheduling (if I didn't like the Company's answer) and asking Monday morning first thing. Your January timecard isn't going to change now unless you do. (I'm guessing it should have been calculated a while ago.)

Denny