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sailingfun 03-30-2014 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 1613077)
Point of order: Network decides what airplanes fly where. Marketing advertises and sells tickets. Crew Resources tries to make Network happy. It's got nothing to do with marketing. (Irregardless :eek: of what you might think.)

Correct, I should have said network.

ExAF 03-30-2014 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 1612162)
As far as World goes, it makes my streak official: every former aviation employer -- flight school, 135, regional and non-sched, is gone. One thing I'm good at is knowing when to quit.

Please post here if you ever plan on leaving Delta!;):D

gloopy 03-30-2014 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1612647)
Anderson has laughed at the notion of buying HA for their aircraft. We can have additional heavy aircraft any time we want. It makes no sense at all to purchase them for that reason. Much cheaper to just buy aircraft.

True, however doing that would add capacity. Buying HA gets us the AC, the network, some NRT bypass with good built in flow and a couple HND slots as well. And it does all of the above without adding a single seat of capacity.

forgot to bid 03-30-2014 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1613074)
In a circumstance with 7% reserves or less, a senior pilot would likely do well to bid reserve, place all of his X-days at the beginning of the month, and submit a 30-day GS request. At that point, you're right that he will sit no short calls, but neither will he do much (if any) flying on his on-call days.

yes, that would be how to do it but the reality of this situation is theyre unstacking res no matter the seniority on reserve which disrupts the x days off in mass at the beginning of the month.

the third res pilot/second res pilot with a full res schedule is unstacked.

gloopy 03-30-2014 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1612734)
I also think it provides a nice springboard to improve our vacation in 12 months when we open!!

Yes and no (as far as using that for leverage). They will say they were forced into "me too-ing" other groups because of us, and therefore anything extra we get will have to be bargained for at the price of the entire company. :rolleyes:

In any case, I really hope we don't even think about the 6th week until and unless we first fix weeks 1-5 by substantially increasing their values per day. 5 hours a day should be the minimum we go for.

Alan Shore 03-30-2014 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1613152)
yes, that would be how to do it but the reality of this situation is theyre unstacking res no matter the seniority on reserve which disrupts the x days off in mass at the beginning of the month.

the third res pilot/second res pilot with a full res schedule is unstacked.

Probably so. But regardless of where his X-days sit, particularly if he bids them in as long a block as possible, he will be available for a GS trip on those days, and that will hopefully start the thunder rolling for him.

gloopy 03-30-2014 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1613012)
There is no doubt that is what they want. Getting the gates is another issue. As I mentioned SWA and AK also want any new gates. I doubt AK will get them but we all know that SWA is the airport golden boy when it comes to getting gates. Hopefully RA can pull it off and we get lots.

We will get lots as long as we're willing to overpay for the construction like any big city airport project. That skinny bridge in LGA was 350 million…the arm in JFK 1.5 BILLION, for I think under a dozen gates. Palms have to be greased in situations like this. These are the most unremarkable structures imaginable, yet if its on a big city airport a 5-10 gate terminal extension will usually cost many times more than a 1500 ft tall sky scraper. Think about it.

Now is the perfect time to pay the airport mobs their bribe money, and I expect we will do exactly that.

Alan Shore 03-30-2014 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1613153)
In any case, I really hope we don't even think about the 6th week until and unless we first fix weeks 1-5 by substantially increasing their values per day. 5 hours a day should be the minimum we go for.

I'm not saying that I wouldn't like to have that amount of value per vacation day, but to the extent that a 7-day vacation would then be worth 1/2 of an average month, how is that different from simply adding a proportional number of vacation days in a year?

Either way, you're getting more total vacation hours, and an equally greater amount of time off vis a vis less flying assigned throughout the year due to vacation.

The downside of more vacation value per rather than more vacation days is that reserve pilots' on call days are prorated by the number of vacation days they hold, and not by the value of those vacation days. IOW, while a regular line holder would get more days off in a vacation month either way, a reserve pilot would only get more if he had more vacation days.

gloopy 03-30-2014 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1613016)
I have been told that for perhaps the first time ever flight ops refused marketings summer block hour plan because we did not have enough pilots. It was reduced as a result. Airframes don't seem to be an issue.

It could easily be both.

We could be short of planes and even shorter on pilots. Marketing plugs in how much they want the planes that we have to fly, and Flt Ops says if we can do it or not. But that doesn't mean we couldn't use more planes (assuming we had the staffing for them, which we don't, which is why its a moo point at this time).

badflaps 03-30-2014 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1613159)
We will get lots as long as we're willing to overpay for the construction like any big city airport project. That skinny bridge in LGA was 350 million…the arm in JFK 1.5 BILLION, for I think under a dozen gates. Palms have to be greased in situations like this. These are the most unremarkable structures imaginable, yet if its on a big city airport a 5-10 gate terminal extension will usually cost many times more than a 1500 ft tall sky scraper. Think about it.

Now is the perfect time to pay the airport mobs their bribe money, and I expect we will do exactly that.

You shouda seen the beak wetting on building the LGA terminal off of 31.


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