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RA and the gang are pretty darn smart. If they do a SEA takeover, then you know it's the right thing to do and I hope it goes gangbusters. Or in SEA talk, get high, get loud, get good music, get the Broncos, get the Texas A&M 12th Man meme, get the munchies... wait, what was I talking about? I'm too apathetic to go back and look, carpool in a Prius please!

You did it!

Word in the school house.

They want to get as many 717 as they can. Just like they did with the 90's. Possibly "looking" now.

Long day there and a commute back to Phoenix to do honey do stuff and laundry before I turn around and go right back. So I'm hitting the rack I and I figured I'd ask here instead of wasting zzzzzz's.

Does anyone know how many were built? I've only seen Hawaiian flying them. Maybe Aeromexico too? Not sure.

Number built-156. In service 146. Don't know where the other 10 are. Hawaiian has 18, Volotea 14, Quantas Link 13, Turkmenistan 6, and Blue 1-9.

Just got one today, officially ready to bid SEA.

I have heard that, in 2013, the average regular line holder who earned at least 70 hours of pay averaged 89 hours of pay.

I agree with the rest of your post. The only problem I see for management is that, during the winter months, the same PWA that allows them to get by with fewer pilots in the summer costs them tons of reserve guarantee when those same regular pilots continue to snap up every trip in sight.

Further, to the extent that the Company does let reserve staffing dwindle to minimum allowed by the PWA, were Delta pilots suddenly to fly less as a whole, Delta would be in a world of hurt. The cap limited the amount of additional flying that a pilot could pick up ahead of reserves, and therefore made that equation at least more predictable.

Those are interesting... I'd like to know what the underlying block hours were... That's where the staffing hits home.

For the 87/89 pay hour discussion, remember that sick leave, CD training, vacation, training, and all credit, ADG, GS/RR/IA pay all are taken into account in that average.

More hours for the same amount of actual flying is not a "productivity enhancement" for the Company.... but it is an enhancement for your checking account.

No doubt. The other relevant stat would be what the staffing formula called for in the two years. We all know that we were somewhat overstaffed two years ago, particularly in the widebody categories, and that the overstaffing has diminished significantly.

From the Bid Monitor Reports available on the DALPA website:

For January 2012, total block and credit hours were 518,908. The average ALV was 72.70. We had a total of 9,218 pilots required and 10,653 actually in category, an overage of 15.6%.

For January 2013, total block and credit hours were 508,351. The average ALV was 72.86. We had a total of 9,081 pilots required and 10,579 actually in category, an overage of 16.5%.

For January 2014, total block and credit hours were 533,724. The average ALV was 72.69. We had a total of 9,817 pilots required and 10,636 actually in category, an overage of 8.3%.

That's good data. Math in public warning, but from January 2013, with essentially the same ALV, the total number of pilots required jumped by 599 and the number of block hours increased by over 25,000. That's a good trend. :)

Here is similar data for widebody Captains:

For January 2012, total block and credit hours were 130,586. The average ALV was 73.69. We had a total of 2,330 pilots required and 2,604 actually in category, an overage of 11.8%.

For January 2013, total block and credit hours were 124,679. The average ALV was 73.71. We had a total of 2,206 pilots required and 2,507 actually in category, an overage of 13.6%.

For January 2014, total block and credit hours were 123,774. The average ALV was 72.82. We had a total of 2,211 pilots required and 2,469 actually in category, an overage of 11.7%.