Public Service Announcement - One month Left
 

Guys don't forget to make your DC plan rollover selections - due by June 13th. And be sure to leave some time to have the form notarized as required for many of us.


Scoop

Of course this trend has been clearly existent for nearly two decades. Management ordered 500+ RJ's before Contract 2000 was ratified. Then as scope was breached concessions arrived as on schedule just as any hollywood movie protagonist arrives in the last 10 minutes to save the day.

George, ACL65 and I accurately predicted the failure of compliance with the Trans Atlantic Joint Venture more than three years ago. Our concern was met with assurances and the fact that inclusion of Alitalia increased our share. D-ALPA is correct ... we increased bargaining leverage with the JV revision.

My failure has been to equate scope with "flying" when we have no practical resource to compel the Company to perform an iota of flying it does not want to perform. Perhaps we could take them to Court and force them to stop flying we don't permit, but, where is the money in compliance?

The Company knows this and breaks our agreement knowing the answer is going to be trading employment for some other equity, usually cash. Finding a legal answer, which meets with political support, is really a tough nut to crack. For starters, we could and should start harassing the appropriate managers in crew room briefs about their noncompliance. After all, we do comply with our end of the agreement. We have ever reason to expect their compliance.

If we were unified, we would not have this problem to this degree. We facilitate outsourcing for money, so a breach is a money issue.Yep. Two weeks later.

I would like it rolled into a global production balance in such a way that we capture "and beyond" flying in that metric. I will be disappointed if we convert wide body Captain jobs to cash.

Exactly. It's "unrealistic" for us to demand x, y, or z.
But apparently it's completely realistic for the company to offer less than 8433 (because you know that wasn't their opener. Or was it? :cool:)

At Northwestern we had similar contract violations. We rebid the air line on paper as if the flying existed. Then we paid the harmed pilots who should have upgraded.

Not only have these pilots been harmed for years, the violation shows no sign of ending.

Ken Watts is an expert on this issue and can help if asked.

Northwestern is TIC. From Chicago where all the people know American and United. They confused us with the railroad.

Backdoor A lines are out for Jun. Most of them anyways.

That is a good idea and I believe that analysis has been performed. Due to the seniority of this flying, nearly every pilot at the airline (and half the Endeavor list) have claims. (just kidding about the Endeavor part)

I agree. Don't throw me a bone, just show me some under boob.

It's also a University in Evanston. I liked that you used it. It's like 'American West' or Delta Airlines. They did say that a lot in Chicago...:D I like to use the Bostonian "Delter" when referring to my employer.

I think it will roll into the Virgin joint venture talks which should start in a few weeks.

There is a common misconception that our share of the flying decreased relative to AirFrance/KLM. The violation was the failure of the company to grow our share with the meltdown in Europe. As I mentioned in the other post I suspect the entire issue will be rolled into the Virgin discussions.