Very well, then lets see a chart comparing pilots to block hours to see the change.

well I guess "we" should fix that in the next contract.

No kidding... That jumble of numbers is a pain to decipher, but it wreaks of bad data, or, more typical with sailiing, bad analysis on first glance.

I stated that 56 747/777 bids were posted as replacements for retiring pilots after it was posted that none were replaced. More then 56 retired in the ER program. Please tell where the numbers wreak. They are straight from crew planning and I checked them against the bids I could still locate. Please show me your data that causes these numbers to wreak?

Imagine how much money he could make coming on here by making bets on what will happen. :D

You stated that NONE of the 777 or 747 captains who retired have been replaced. The 56 number comes from crew planning. I never stated we are up 56 positions. 56 bids were posted. 20 in Aug of 12, 8 in Oct of 12 and 11 in Mar of 12 for the 747. On the 777 8 bids were posted in Oct of 12 and 9 more in Mar of 12. Total for both aircraft 56. That's slightly more then none.

Go look on Delta net at the crew planning news letters. They discuss block hours. I think the current one says we are down 2 percent in block hours this January compared to 2013.

I lost to Denny on the Superbowl.

SD:D







Oh BTW Denny, you're fired.:eek:

AE date DC9 717 M88 320 73N 767 7ER 765 330 777 747 Total A
Aug12 26 10 10 20 66
Oct12 4 20 10 -20 25 8 8 55
Mar13 -116 145 -16 -8 80 -80 87 -29 9 11 83
Jun13 55 22 77
Sep13 35 25 5 10 75
Oct13 25 25
Dec13 35 45 7 87
Jan14 15 15 18 4 52
Feb14 5 5 10
Total -112 195 149 84 151 -100 122 4 -19 17 39 503


Ok, I give up trying to post the numbers in a readable format on here. I thought I had it and it did not post correctly again. I will be happy to send the data to anyone who can post it correctly.

I'll concede, you are correct on the 56 number directly post 2012. I had forgotten about the ER and the initial replacements. However the proof is in the pudding as far as the wording of your post right htere. It's rapidly approaching 2 years since the last vacancy, and they did not replace the all 744/777 guys that took the ER in the first place. We are also a year and a half down range from Age 65 day, and not a single replacement for the the "real" retirements yet either.

While you are technically correct, the overall sentiment is also correct in regard to virtually no replacements since C2012. How much longer will it be with real retirements and no replacements for the 744 and 777?