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Old 06-07-2014, 09:45 AM
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I'm afraid this thread has lost its way.

I haven't seen a picture of a cheerleader for quite some time.
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Old 06-07-2014, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by marcal View Post
Hi,

I was wondering if someone could answer this question about the Delta B-Plan retirement?

Will I have the ability to invest in low-cost index funds i.e. Vanguard type within the plan, or do I have to choose from a bunch of expensive mutual funds that the provider offers?

Thanks!
There are index funds within the plan too.
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:25 PM
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ATL 88B has had 1 GS go out today, can't remember the last time this few GS's went out on a weekend.
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:30 PM
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ATL 88B has had 1 GS go out today, can't remember the last time this few GS's went out on a weekend.
What do you attribute this to?
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8 View Post
What do you attribute this to?
Not many highly motivated 88B's?

I don't know, I thought this was supposed to be the summer of Green. Green Slips have been handed out like candy on this thing all year long then summer hits and it goes down on a weekend?

I was thinking of trying to Roll next month, maybe not.
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit View Post
I truly don't care about seeing survey results... I really only care about seeing actual results**.
I agree completely. Let's look at the ACTUAL results over the last 10 year period. They're PATHETIC!

In addition to having our defined benefit plan terminated, and continuing out of control healthcare costs, we're as much as 21% behind 2004 payrates!
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit View Post
I truly don't care about seeing survey results... I really only care about seeing actual results**.
Here's some more of the ACTUAL results.

Keep in mind that we're as much as 21% BEHIND the payrates we had A DECADE AGO!!! 10 Years ago and as much as 21% behind!!!!

And that's without factoring in the devastating effects of inflation!

Still feel like celebrating?
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:51 PM
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thanks for the previous two posts…..context is everything.
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit View Post
I truly don't care about seeing survey results... I really only care about seeing actual results**.
Let me show you more of those actual results below...

Originally Posted by shiznit View Post
I'm leaning towards calling those real results, YRMV.
I can tell you with 100% certainty that you are leaning the wrong way.

The actual results don't support your euphoria.

The following was generated using the online calculator at the Bureau of Labor Statistics website.

Plugging in 777 Capt pay for 2004 would require a payrate today of $401.11---just to achieve the same purchasing power from a decade ago. The 2014 777 Capt payrate is $262.38/hr. If my math is correct, that's a deficit of $138.73----just to reach parity in purchasing power from 10 years ago!!!!
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Old 06-07-2014, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
The next contract is going to take 3 plus years at a minimum.
I see you've been issued new talking points.

Did you get these straight form the CEO or someone lower down the stock option chain?

Already trying to soften the troops that we're doomed, restoration unachievable (curiously, a forbidden term from the DALPA vernacular), that it's going to be a a long road...tsk.tsk.tsk

What's the message you are trying to convey? 3/3/3/3 is all we're going to get so we better settle early? The TVM argument again?

Sure sounds like it.
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