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Old 06-14-2014 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Why would DL inherit CPZ, sell them then immediately buy them? I just don't see this particular management team as being as ADHD short sighted as the Leo the Ceo/Reid team was.

And whiskey tango fudge is a "Delta ATP"?
Delta is pressing the FAA to allow them to take guys under the ATP requirements if they go through Delta's "special" training program that is being setup. It's basically the Delta Academy 2.0.
Old 06-14-2014 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
How does extending our flight duty period work? It happened to me yesterday. They kept pushing our flight back 15 minutes at a time until we were extended. I told my captain that I didn't want to extend. He pressured me into continuing. He also called crew tracking because I told him I thought we needed to concur. Crew tracking told him signing the release was concurring. I signed the release before I knew we were extending. How is that concurring? My point is it is very hard to turn down an extension. I was honestly too tired to even fight it so I flew the :45 min flight and took the path of least resistance. Actually the captain did. It was his leg. I have been more tired flying under 117 than I ever was under the old rules. You have to pretty much add a half hour to all the published FTD times because the 30 minute post flight does not count.
I had a similar situation. The flight was delayed due to WX and and a reroute added legs. We would have to accept an extension to complete all 6 (yes I said 6) legs. The A was ok with the extension, I was not. I just free texted the dispatcher via ACARS and said I won't accept an extension. He replied OK, you're released. No pay penalty, no questions, no arguments.
Old 06-14-2014 | 02:42 PM
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Any rumors/wags on the Surface pads?
Old 06-14-2014 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
When you told the Captain you were to tired to continue that should have been the end of the story. He should have called the dispatcher and declined the extension. No mention should have been made about who declined. You could however under the 117 LOA declined the extension on your own.
How? Never received any guidance from ALPA on that.
Old 06-14-2014 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
Any rumors/wags on the Surface pads?
Continued delay. Was to be shipped to everyone last month.

Of all things, they can not get it to push documents and updates to us.

Many software engineers in Redmond "working on it."

Jump seated Mesa two days ago into PHX.

Again, for emphasis.

Mesa.

They have iPads.
Old 06-14-2014 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
How? Never received any guidance from ALPA on that.
It was in both the Chairmans letter and loa14-2

Provides that each individual pilot may reject an FDP extension if he is not fit for duty
Old 06-14-2014 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
How? Never received any guidance from ALPA on that.
I usually don't defend ALPA...but do you really need guidance from ALPA to know you never have to fly fatigued?

If nothing else, walking off the plane and calling the duty pilot is probably a good place to start.

Flying fatigued because you couldn't/wouldn't stop the operation is unsat.
Old 06-14-2014 | 04:06 PM
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Is this the Emma Watson pic?

Wow she grew up "well"


http://resources0.news.com.au/images...mma-watson.jpg

Sorry: I'm not allowed to post pics....
Old 06-14-2014 | 04:10 PM
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Looks like some plastic work here!

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...-ygOORJpf1W2lm
Old 06-14-2014 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Who are you and what have you done with shiznit??

Good points. I'd also add that the company dragging its feet on 117 negotiations inflated IA/RR/GS numbers.
Originally Posted by Purple Drank
I usually don't defend ALPA...but do you really need guidance from ALPA to know you never have to fly fatigued?

If nothing else, walking off the plane and calling the duty pilot is probably a good place to start.

Flying fatigued because you couldn't/wouldn't stop the operation is unsat.
I'm buying a lottery ticket... Two posts in a row that PD an I are in agreement!


(I'm going to ignore the "don't normally defend ALPA" part...)LOL
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