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Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 1679810)

You mean a 6% raise, with a reduction in profit sharing isn't really a 6% raise. Guess I need to pay more attention at roadshows. I kid, I kid

no kidding.. 4/6/1/1 with monster profits and every other employee back to pre-bankruptcy wages isn't going to cut it and i'll renew my card in a moment if they try to shove that garbage on us

So my first world cup game to watch, Brasil vs Germany.... Go Brasil!

So....... this ain't good.

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Originally Posted by pilotjockey (Post 1679886)

no kidding.. 4/6/1/1 with monster profits and every other employee back to pre-bankruptcy wages isn't going to cut it and i'll renew my card in a moment if they try to shove that garbage on us

I get the 6 but what is the 1/1?

Jerry, and Purple et al, you espouse a "no concession" contract in 2015. Honest question here, what incentive would management have to even negotiate? Under the RLA, they can sit on our current contract forever and we would stagnate and lose ground to inflation. Are you that happy with our current deal that you would live with it for years beyond the amendable date?

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1679805)

Is it your assertion that DALPA provided objective, unbiased data on which to base our decisions?

Of course it is.

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Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1679356)

The business system in this country is severely broken though, as Wall Street actually punishes you for doing good things.

How do you figure?

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1679423)

Question, what are the pros and cons of say a 6.75 ADG (say with 0% raise the first year)? Just an increase in the ADG.

It's unrealistic to begin with, but you have the right idea.

Baby steps..... I wouldn't think the company would buy off on going from 5:15 right to 6:45. But maybe 5:30 the first year with incremental raises...

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Originally Posted by satchip (Post 1679939)

The goodwill of the Pilot group. If 12,000 Pilots stop going above and beyond the operation will suffer.

Just to be crystal-clear, I am not talking about about any type of covert wink-wink type of organized effort. I am talking about Pilots displaying leadership and initiative, preventing issues from even arising by being pro-active. If we stopped doing this, and most surely would, our performance would suffer badly.

Also under the RLA we can make a lot of noise and start taking all the steps leading up to a strike. Even if we were not allowed to strike if we were to slowly jump through the required hoops, with all the accompanying hoopla, passengers bookings could decrease.

Between just these two items and there are probably others, but I only have about 30 seconds of thought into this, we are not entirely without recourse.

Scoop

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1679957)

II wouldn't think the company would buy off on

Well, they're not going to "buy off on" anything unless
1) we ask for it;
2) we fight for it;
and
3) DALPA doesn't give up on it

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1679961)

Well, they're not going to "buy off on" anything unless
1) we ask for it;
2) we fight for it;
and
3) DALPA doesn't give up on it

All your vitriol aside regarding dALPA, like Satchip just asked you, how long are you willing to wait to achieve your goal?