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sailingfun 05-18-2014 06:38 AM

[QUOTE=Check Essential;1645864]I went to a state college but I don't see how 2 x 11
Your correct, should be 22 hours and 33 hours. Still no way 3 guys is cheaper.

LeineLodge 05-18-2014 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1645862)
And what is the minimum scheduled and actual break between legs that must be provided?


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1645887)
The kicker on these CDOs is going to be the pay.
That has not been discussed on this forum yet.

The 7+30 is not a straight pay number.
Some of that is going to be pay/no credit for a lineholder and on top of guarantee for a reserve.

Rumor is that any amount over trip rig or block is going to be premium.

ie = if the CDO is 3 hours of block you will get the remaining 4+30 as pay/no credit.

There could be some guys working 10 days and getting paid 100 hours.
(again, state college math. buyer beware :eek:)

We need to see the TA.

That's interesting. So if the soft time is pay/no credit would a CDO guy be able to reach the GS trigger?

I've heard several guys say things like "fly 10 cdo's a month and then put in a GS for the rest of the time." This night impact that if the pay/no credit is true.

badflaps 05-18-2014 06:47 AM

Gee Sailing, only have to fly three trips a month.

index 05-18-2014 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1645799)
Is it possible that our guys actually won one for the old Gipper? :eek:

Are you on FPL or are you spinning pro bono?

Check Essential 05-18-2014 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1645890)
That's interesting. So if the soft time is pay/no credit would a CDO guy be able to reach the GS trigger?

Probably not. Not without some non-CDO trips.
The 100 hours for 10 days work is a slight exaggeration.
Plus it would be hard to fly too many CDOs because of the FAR limit on consecutive night ops and trips that occur in the window of circadian low, etc.

I think the TA limits them to 3 in a row also. Unverified.

index 05-18-2014 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 1645795)
Now your sales point is that ALPA was just doing the pilots bidding!?!?

Have to raise the BS flag on this one....

We heard you loud and clear. The pilot group told us that CDOs were their top priority. That's what sailing's management buddies would have you think.

Sink r8 05-18-2014 06:58 AM

So the new pushback policy would be issued right after a TA that fails to include door pay? Awkward.

Check Essential 05-18-2014 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1645888)
Your correct, should be 22 hours and 33 hours. Still no way 3 guys is cheaper.

Public math strikes again. :)

I agree with your point though.
I'm not sure why the company would want domestic augmented.

Just have to wait for the TA and then we might see the light.

Sink r8 05-18-2014 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by index (Post 1645899)
Are you on FPL or are you spinning pro bono?

He seems to be far better informed, and informative than you ever are, as well as more balanced. I don't see him making personal attacks, which leaves the field wide-open for you to debate him on facts and issues.

Can you do that?

newKnow 05-18-2014 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1645799)
Is it possible that our guys actually won one for the old Gipper? :eek:

Absolutely. But, even if they did, I think my question remains. Does it make sense to you?


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