Originally Posted by Hillbilly (Post 1680106)

You are not alone on this one Ferd. People are only enamored with profit sharing during years in which we are making profits. I much prefer the pay via other means, whether it's rates or a bump to the ADG or increased value of training days, etc. But that's just me.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1680111)

So the 717 could go to NYC, it could go west, but it won't do both.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1680113)

how about every month you work (i.e. flew the line, sat reserve or worked as an sli) (sup and FPL do not count) you get 1 day of pay at the ADG. By the end of the year if you worked every month you get 63 hours of pay.



Thoughts? I pulled that one right out of the ole' bottom.

Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1679798)

Also future 717 basing is dependent upon demand on the West coast. If demand is high enough, expect a SEA 717 base in lieu of a NYC 717 base.

Originally Posted by Hillbilly (Post 1680106)

You are not alone on this one Ferd. People are only enamored with profit sharing during years in which we are making profits. I much prefer the pay via other means, whether it's rates or a bump to the ADG or increased value of training days, etc. But that's just me.

Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1680114)

Maybe not initially, but I'm not sure that the losing coast should go all "Brazil" and weep uncontrollably.

Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1680092)

Satch...in short, yes. I'll risk an indefinite period of no wage growth. It's absolutely essential to let the company know we're not going to accept a bad deal just to get it done.

Furthermore, let's see MD go on record with the same message. "We will take as long as necessary to attain a contract befitting Delta's record profits--as witnessed by massive increases in every meaningful measurement--including executive compensation [insert stat here].

Let's get it on the record now, and launch an offensive. I'm tired of the company taking the initiative and DALPA always reacting/caught a step behind.

I guess I disagree with the premise that we "aren't offering anything." First, we should note that most guys on the property contributed very heavily when times were bad. That loan is due. There is no reason to give more now.

What we have to "offer" is labor peace. RA relies heavily on the perception that Delta is above labor strife. It's a big part of his move to make Delta an "investment grade" organization. If picketing starts and things get messy, investors--already gunshy about airline stocks--will bolt.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1680150)

Brazil did nazi that coming.